Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of 2001: A Space Odyssey trivia (2nd nomination)

List of 2001: A Space Odyssey trivia

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This is a procedural listing, on which I am not (currently) taking a position. See Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 May 19#List of 2001: A Space Odyssey trivia for context. This article was redirected for several years. A recent RfD failed to find consensus for deletion. My sense as a closer is that opposition to deletion was more on procedural grounds than substantial ones. One editor in that discussion was comfortable with the status quo, but most favored sending it here or deleting it outright. BDD (talk) 16:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions. BDD (talk) 16:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. BDD (talk) 16:19, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging RfD participants in the interests of thoroughness: User:OcelotCreeper, User:Shhhnotsoloud, User:Thryduulf, User:Dominicmgm, User:Compassionate727, User:Zxcvbnm, User:UppercutPawnch, User:Vaticidalprophet. Unless you see me vote below, I am not watching this page, so please ping me if needed. --BDD (talk) 16:21, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment As the nominator for the RfD, if this is to be kept, it should be to look over the content to see what can be merged into 2001: A Space Odyssey (film), what can't, and what is already in there.

For example: "A four-year-old Vivian Kubrick, Stanley Kubrick's daughter, had an uncredited guest role as Floyd's daughter "squirt" to whom he speaks via videophone from Space Station 5" is mentioned in the cast section. Mentioning that he was communicating with her on the Space Station 5 is unnecessary, and anyone who notices this part of the cast list would put two-and-two together the she is related to Stanley Kubrick. In other words, nothing to add in, so delete.

"There are five birthdays in the film (in chronological order): Humankind; Dr. Floyd's daughter; Astronaut Frank Poole; computer HAL's "operational" birthday (January 12, 1992); the Starchild is born" is completely WP:FANCRUFT. Maybe on the IMDB trivia page (it isn't so far), but definitely not on Wikipedia. Delete.

"The original scripted ending has the Star Child set off the orbiting nuclear devices seen (though not explained) in the "Blue Danube" sequence. Kubrick concluded this was too similar to the ending of Dr. Strangelove and so opted for the more ambiguous and optimistic ending scene. In his book The Making of Kubrick's 2001, Jerome Agel explained this, making note of the meaning of the intentional irony of the song sung at the ending of Dr. Strangelove: "We WON'T Meet Again"." is mostly mentioned. The Jerome Agel bit maybe. The Blue Danube part, while I haven't heard of, wouldn't be too surprising if it was true, given when the music starts playing in the credits.

Also, if this is to be done, sourcing has to be properly added. OcelotCreeper (talk) 16:40, 26 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]