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No race

For the second time, I removed the claim that East Asian people together with Native Americans form a "genetic group". Reasons:

  • The sources say that Tianyuan man is "likely related to many present-day Asians and Native Americans." But that doesn't make them a "genetic group".
  • The idea of a "genetic group" seems to be basically the same thing as a race (in the biological sense of the word). That's against scientific consensus.
  • It is not clear why one (or two) human beings from several 10,000 years ago should be important for such a short article on so many people.
  • Studies are primary sources (WP:PSTS), but WP articles should be based on secondary sources. --Rsk6400 (talk) 18:26, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Your arguments are not a reason to delete well sourced content. Personal views or ideas are NOT to be implemented into Wikipedia articles (or to be used to delete respective content). Please rely and read WP:NPOV. Genetic group does not mean race (this is a misleading idea of you). Genetic group refers to a group of populations which are closely or closer related to each other than to other populations, because of genetic drift together from an shared ancestral population lineage (Tianyuan/Liujiang in this case), or because of convergence. This has nothing to do with race but is a typical genetic development in species. It is especially relevant for the history and migration patterns of Eastern Eurasia, especially East Asia. Any removal is based on personal ideas or views and violates Wikipedia policies. There is not one primary source but several publications in both primary and secondary journals. Lastly, WP:PSTS does support the use of secondary sources, but does not prevent us from using useful primary studies. Again a personal view of you. Please stop pushing your personal view and rely of Wikipedia policies, such as WP:NPOV. Thank you and have a good day.213.162.80.117 (talk) 19:08, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]