Talk:Speaker of the New Zealand House of Representatives

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I've just updated the incumbency section to note Margaret Wilson's elevation to Speaker. I'm not sure if the deputies are still the same though.

Oh and congrats to all those who built this page, it's a very good resource. Lisiate 00:56, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Speaker's Office website, which has been updated for Wilson's elevation, still lists the same deputy and assistants. Thanks for fixing that — I frequently forget to check things other than the table when I update things. -- Vardion 01:42, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The dates of tenure on this page dont match up with the bios of the individual Speakers.

Mace

Anyone got an Image of the Mace? Brian | (Talk) 05:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How Many?

Re Speaker:

Is it 27 not 26 people who have been the Speaker (inc Margaret Wilson)??.
O’Rorke (his page added) was known as Maurice not George since he was knighted 1880 (see DNZB).
If Roy Jack is No 17 first time, No No 2nd time, why is Maurice O’Rorke No 5 AND No 7?
Also Speakers external link does not work with “new improved” Parliamentary website! Hugo999 15:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right about the numbering — I've just fixed it. I've also updated the link to the Speaker's page on the Parliamentary website, although the speech also linked seems to be gone, so I've removed that one. -- Vardion 20:15, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My edit to the junior presiding officers' tenures

I've just made an edit that I simply can't explain the reasoning for in the limited space of an edit summary, so I will set it out here instead. The end-dates for the tenures of the junior presiding officers has been nagging at me for a while. After looking at the pages for past MPs on the website, it's clear that they do not in fact stay in office until their successors are appointed, the way the Speaker does. (Except if they're re-appointed, in which case I guess they are retrospectively deemed to have been in the job continuously, just because it's tidier that way). But when they do leave office is frustratingly ambiguous. Sometimes the website gives the end-date as the election date, and sometimes as the dissolution date. There's no particular pattern to suggest that the practice changed from one to the other at some point, or that deputy speakers stay longer than assistant speakers because they have more administrative responsibilities. It's not even consistent on individual MPs' pages, for those with multiple tenures. At least one date is clearly wrong (Trevor Mallard's assistant speaker tenure is shown as ending on 23/10/2017, a date with no particular significance. I would guess that it was supposed to be 23/09/2017, the election date.) Chester Borrows' and Lindsay Tisch's pages were archived when they retired with their roles still shown as current and with no end-date at all.

To have some consistency on Wikipedia at least, I've opted for the election dates rather than the dissolution dates, as they're used somewhat more frequently, and apply to the most recent retirees, Anne Tolley and Ruth Dyson. The next test will be what happens to Adrian Rurawhe's page if and when he is appointed deputy speaker. He's still shown as a current assistant speaker, so I've left him as such in our table for now. Apologies for writing such an essay on a minor matter like this. MW691 (talk) 11:25, 7 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]