Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Jewish pacifists, peace activists and supporters
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The result was SNOW delete Jclemens (talk) 03:19, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
List of Jewish pacifists, peace activists and supporters [edit]
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Unreferenced page for over a year. Does not seem to list any criteria for being included, and what would the criteria be? For example, Norman Finkelstein is not a peace activist under my definition of the term. He has been known to support Palestinian causes (including terrorist organizations, which isn't very peaceful, in my opinion), but so what? Unless someone can clarify and clean up this article, it's not helpful to the encyclopedia as currently constituted. Enigmamsg 17:47, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Not referenced, but even if it was, this is a list of persons who are described as "peace activists" and who also happen to be Jewish, and it's an intersection of two unrelated qualities (I'd analogize it to a list of Roman Catholic NRA members). As Enigma Man points out, it really comes down to a point of view of whether someone is a "pacifist" or is supporting "peace". I'd add that "activist" is also a judgment call. Mandsford 21:10, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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- Delete WP:BLP applies to lists that include living persons per WP:Source list so all claims would have to be sourced, and not all sources that use the word pacifist might have the same definition. Peace activist is also broad. Everyone could be potential peace activist even Carl von Clausewitz. On the other side; is it supposed to be Jews in general, Israelites, only people who practice Judaism, self identified people? It's just the intersection of two random criteria. The first section of Wikipedia:Lists in Wikipedia is Lists are not a place to make value judgements of people or organizations. Any criteria that would sufficiently define this list to a single topic would have to be arbitrary to the point of making a value judgement.--Savonneux (talk) 23:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, serious BLP implications from the lack of citations. Stifle (talk) 12:49, 28 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Lack of references, and lack of any real definition of who should be included ("supporters"?) First Light (talk) 06:09, 30 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete because there is no inherent or other connection between being "Jewish" and a "pacifist" or "peace activist" or of a "supporter" of such things which is not defined here whether it includes "Jewish" or "non-Jewish" "supporters" therefore making this list very poorly thought through, see Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and WP:LISTCRUFT. IZAK (talk) 02:49, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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