Wikipedia talk:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Cyclones

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Original filing?

Where is the request for arbitration? The main case page has no statements. What is the dispute that is being attempted to be resolved? Isn't there an original complaint with statements that arbitrators used to evaluate whether to take the case? Where is that? ConstantPlancks (talk) 00:09, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@ConstantPlancks: You can find them in the "Preliminary statements" and "Preliminary decisions" sections of the main case page. Preliminary statements can be found in a subpage (Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/WikiProject Tropical Cyclones/Preliminary statements). Chlod (say hi!) 00:16, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Chlod: Thanks! Got it. I didn't see the link in the Preliminary Statements section so it looked empty. ConstantPlancks (talk) 00:26, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Old WPTC discussions

@Barkeep49: With the draft that Robert McClenon just accepted, it has come to light that the off-wiki discussion issue extends far beyond what the committee has been considering thus far in this case. Draft_talk:Tropical_Storm_Helene_(2012) shows evidence of off-wiki discussion as far back as 2012. It's unknown how many other discussions have been tainted in this manner. Noah^Talk 13:40, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Hurricane Noah I am not a drafter for this case. I am slightly unsurprised to hear that there was off-wiki coordination in 2012 on IRC. The good news is that this discovery doesn't really change the shape of what we're trying to do now: minimize future disruption/violation of Wikipedia policies which means a focus on what's been happening recently, which is the evidence that was submitted during this case. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:51, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I realize that some of these discussions are nearly if not over a decade old, but shouldn't something be done about them since they are tainted? Noah^Talk 15:08, 3 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No? Primefac (talk) 10:11, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Skynorth's comment

In the proposed decision talk page there is an interesting statement that links WikiProject Tropical Cyclones to Hypothetical Hurricanes Wiki in Fandom, referring to falling-your-own-sword proposals that were suggested in the workshop. I think this is an issue that could be considered. Mario Jump 83! 04:38, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Unless discussions at the Hypothetical Hurricane Wiki have influenced discussions or decisions on Wikipedia, I don't really see how it's relevant. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:51, 4 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

At least one of the users involved is a member of that community. The falling-on-your-sword, over the top proposals proposed really remind me of my time there (2017-2021), before I moved on to more productive things...for some reason, they tend to act like that when literally anything happens. - Skynorth/Starfrost^{my talk page} 22:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]