User talk:2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63
An apology
I offer my apologies for the tone of my last message to you. It wasn't a good way of expressing myself. Obviously, you are free to take as much or as little notice of this apology as you like, and to leave it here or remove it, but I offer it for what it's worth. JBW (talk) 12:38, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. Nor was I expressing myself in a way that does me much credit. I did not intend to direct my frustration at you or anyone in particular. Perhaps it provided me an off ramp, at least for the short term. No harm done. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 22:03, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
Haven't seen you around
Hey CD63, I noticed it had been a while since I'd seen you around. I hope all is well with you and yours, --Jack Frost (talk) 06:34, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you for your note, Jack Frost. All is well, as I hope it is with you. It's great to be off-Wiki. All the best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:47C0 (talk) 01:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
- a random Q: why don't you create an account? :-) —usernamekiran (talk) 17:55, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
Thanks
Hey "Bob", in the deletion I think I missed your last message to me, but thought you might appreciate that I've had a go at trimming the list of publications at David Doyle (writer). I'm always happy for you to tag me, whether I can get to the article before one of your other WP:TOS or not, and have always found you point me to things that suit my editing style and preferences. I've really enjoyed working with you here and have learned from you. I hope that having a break is doing you good, and look forward to seeing you back around if and when you're ready my friend. Cheers, Melcous (talk) 10:36, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
- Melcous, thank you. The feeling is mutual. Very best, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:47C0 (talk) 01:25, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Drmies, I reverted some blatant WP:BLP violations here, and suspect the account that added them months ago is probably a sock, or something. They've otherwise edited here only to add promotional dreck. As for the bio, it's almost completely unsourced. Now I return to hibernation. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:8400 (talk) 03:10, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- You met that person months ago already! Drmies (talk) 03:24, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
- Yep. I went back through some of my last edits in September, and saw their continued disruption. 2601:188:180:B8E0:707A:9BF6:AF9D:8DFC (talk) 14:35, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
Breadcrumbs
Home base. So tired of meeting resistance not only from disruptive accounts, but from friendly fire and careless admins. Trying to stay away for another extended period. 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 20:10, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
The Disney progeny have returned
Hi Drmies, I remember years ago that multiple accounts were blocked for adding a lot of promotional, unsourced and family trivia to Disney articles--probably there's a thread or sockpuppet report about this. At any rate, this looks like another incarnation [1]. If I go in an start reverting everything.....but really, at a glance it looks pretty bad. Please feel free to ping other admins if you're not interested or don't have the time. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 17:44, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, that is some weird stuff. There's a couple of Disney freaks around, including Bambifan; I can't remember exactly which one you might be thinking of but I'm looking into it. Drmies (talk) 00:38, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Drmies, Two such old accounts, long since blocked, were Browndevelopers (talk · contribs) and Patrick Sean Murphy (talk · contribs). I'm guessing there are many more. 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 01:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, they look like likely candidates. I can't look at them right now, but if you have a minute you could add them to the SPI (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Elias Disney). I'll tell you that CU revealed nothing else, no other accounts, nothing except for a bit of logged-in editing. What I'm actually interested in is that website, that disney2disney. In a quick look at some contributions from some socks, I didn't see that they were the one who added it, but I only looked at a few. Take care, Drmies (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think if I do anything, Drmies, it will be to start a discussion at ANI. This is mass spamming/promotion on behalf of the family across multiple articles. Whether or not it's block evasion, it's a single purpose account, and all the edits merit scrutiny and possibly mass deletion. That said, there's too much difficult stuff going on IRL right now, so I may not do anything for a bit. Thanks for following up and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 04:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- The hardest are the determined ones. There are those who were blocked, or whose socks were blocked, by admins who have long since retired. SPIs are our institutional memory. I'll look at this one again. All the best IRL. Drmies (talk) 14:46, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- This kind of stuff is just ridiculous. I'm going to dig for that one a little bit.
[2] and [3] are obviously the same person. I think this is one too, and this might be. They're also plugging http://www.circus2circus.com/index.html . Drmies (talk) 14:47, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- I think if I do anything, Drmies, it will be to start a discussion at ANI. This is mass spamming/promotion on behalf of the family across multiple articles. Whether or not it's block evasion, it's a single purpose account, and all the edits merit scrutiny and possibly mass deletion. That said, there's too much difficult stuff going on IRL right now, so I may not do anything for a bit. Thanks for following up and cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 04:03, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yes, they look like likely candidates. I can't look at them right now, but if you have a minute you could add them to the SPI (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Elias Disney). I'll tell you that CU revealed nothing else, no other accounts, nothing except for a bit of logged-in editing. What I'm actually interested in is that website, that disney2disney. In a quick look at some contributions from some socks, I didn't see that they were the one who added it, but I only looked at a few. Take care, Drmies (talk) 13:57, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- Drmies, Two such old accounts, long since blocked, were Browndevelopers (talk · contribs) and Patrick Sean Murphy (talk · contribs). I'm guessing there are many more. 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 01:44, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
- OK, here we are: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Elias Disney. Drmies (talk) 15:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, Drmies. Remarkable. I'll check in once in a while to see if anything else develops. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 16:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Drmies: Also--and I know we don't like to stick COI templates on articles casually--if this is a years' long problem with multiple socks, it may be time to put the templates up on Disney family pieces. Just to let everyone know that the articles are disrupted persistently by relatives, and perhaps to embarrass the account(s) into behaving. But judging by this exchange four years ago [4], that ship has sailed. 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 20:13, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- Wow, Drmies. Remarkable. I'll check in once in a while to see if anything else develops. Thank you, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:7E59 (talk) 16:17, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Latest alternate
Until I find my way back to this IP, I am, respectfully, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:4FAD (talk) 03:00, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
Drmies or other talk page watchers, this is a long term promotional bio, mostly edited by IPs in the subject's home area. It could use a lot of paring, but it may merit an AFD first. Thoughts? 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:4FAD (talk) 21:09, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing that out. Drmies (talk) 01:29, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you, Drmies. Cheers, 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:4FAD (talk) 01:37, 16 May 2022 (UTC)
Would appreciate more eyes there. Drmies (talk · contribs), when you have a chance. I prefer not to edit war, but the latest additions are not acceptable. 2601:188:180:B8E0:0:0:0:4FAD (talk) 17:58, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
RE: accusations of destructive editing
I appreciate you’re candor. Perhaps I will focus on the talk pages for now. Junius Cursus (talk) 20:39, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
- I would slow down in general, Junius Cursus, and read the guidelines, especially before making edits or contributing to talk pages of high profile articles. All content must be properly cited with WP:RELIABLE sources, and this is particularly important with WP:BLPs. Doesn't matter how 'cluttered' it may appear. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:50, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Good point. I will study the guidelines. Junius Cursus (talk) 20:54, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
Here's a bio that was created by and has been owned by family for over a decade. Melcous or Drmies, another project if you're so inclined. 2601:188:180:B8E0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:50, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
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