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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 2601:801:380:63e0::d0f2 (talk) at 10:09, 10 July 2022 (Protest worth noting?). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

One-liner

One-liners (eg. name protest) do not need a private section. The ship's construction is more relevant, it does not have a private section. The Laser weapon is very important and relevant, it does not have a private section. Commissioning was high profile, yet does not have a private section. So when 3 hippies protest the name of the ship, it certainly does not deserve a private section with a one liner —never mind calling it a "controversy". A controversy is sinking a suspicious boat, gunning a town, its Captain skinny dipping in Hawaii, etc. BatteryIncluded (talk) 20:07, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm fine with re-titling the section to "Naming Controversy" if that resolves the dispute, I also added additional information on the protest to address your concern of the section being too short. 208.64.206.4 (talk) 20:28, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Trivia remains trivia regardless of its length. Feel free to expand it if it make the hippies happier, but please look up the definition of controversy. This was a minor inconsequential protest. BatteryIncluded (talk) 20:54, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This article is about the ship, not about a minor event related to her naming & commissioning, and it's certainly not a platform to advertise a bunch of anti-war groups and their agendas. List of groups removed per WP:NOT. The event is now over, but the ship's career has just begun. The article will continue to expand as it goes on deployments and as other notable events occur. - theWOLFchild 21:57, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I personally attended the commissioning ceremony and can tell you that no protesters were seen or heard by me and I was there from 7 am until 2 pm. Protesters were absolutely irrelevant causing no disruption and not even noticeable - there will always be crackpots but who cares.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.158.48.162 (talk) 11:40, 24 April 2018‎ (UTC)[reply]

Protest worth noting?

If anyone can provide some sources confirming this protest was as minor and irrelevant as some claim, (eg: it was held by only 10 people downtown, no where near the port, or commissioning event) then that could justify the removal of the protest notation from the article. - theWOLFchild 06:27, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't add the line about the protest, but I think it should stay. In my opinion, to date, the commissioning ceremony is the most notable event in the life of this ship due to the semi-unusual nature of the Portland being activated without ceremony in order that the commissioning ceremony could be held in its namesake city. However, I would not be surprised if a future version of this article might have no space at all devoted to the commissioning ceremony as it would be easy to imagine that in a decade or so the commissioning ceremony will be barely a footnote in comparison to the rest of the history of the ship. But as the ceremony is the only event of note so far, a sentence about the protest doesn't seem like undue emphasis for the current article. The IP editor who removed the sentence claims the protest occurred "in downtown Portland the next day by 10 people". I don't know if the Willamette Week reference is accurate, but it says the protest was across Northwest Naito Parkway from the ceremony, the same day as the ceremony, by around 100 protesters. —RP88 (talk) 07:16, 15 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
We attended the commissioning and saw a tiny (four or five people) group of protesters at the fence outside the commissioning site. As the commissioning was attended by thousands, would have to say it was irrelevant although, yes, it is the only time at the dozen or so commmissionings that we've attended over the past decade or so that any protesters were to be seen. Of course, this was also the only time where one of the platform speakers (the mayor of Portland) got up and spent their entire time talking about the humanitarian missions the ship was going to carry out while completely ignoring its primary military function of, in this case, supporting Marines assaulting enemy beaches.