User talk:ferret

I'm on a bit of a Wikibreak. I'll still be sporadically editing and patrolling, but my usual watchlist efforts are on hold as I focus on real life priorities, so I'll have a much lower activity level for a while.

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Casual

Just wanna know that how can I create my own article even if I'm not an expert. 202.160.174.117 (talk) 19:23, 18 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Question

What does CIR mean? Ryan Miller 2 (talk) 00:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

WP:CIR, "competence is required". In a nutshell, it refers to cases where editors, despite having good faith, fail to understand the proper way to edit and cause disruption as a result, generally after attempts have been made to education them on the issue. -- ferret (talk) 00:52, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Or repeatedly socking, as this case was. -- ferret (talk) 01:10, 21 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Plot summary socks

I'm pretty sure SomeoneElseMightGetItWrong and Horsesizedduck are the same person, but I don't see anyone else doing "trims" in video game articles. I was wondering if you recognized this. If not, I figured I'd probably just let it go. I honestly don't really care if people use multiple accounts to copy edit plot summaries. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 04:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@NinjaRobotPirate Both accounts have indeed caught my eye before on my watchlist but I did not have any sort of master in mind and plot trimming is certainly needed. I have not dug deeper and did not find or notice any cross editing I felt warranted or gave evidence of more. I had not considered them possibly the same, but activity periods certainly have an interesting overlap. -- ferret (talk) 13:16, 22 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

discord question

Sorry to bother you, I think I (same username in both) was banned from the wikipedia discord? Can I ask why? Tttmaker (talk) 23:04, 25 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

SPIs and Harry Potter

Thanks for your help with the two SPIs. Did you watch the Harry Potter film series? (Yeah, I know, this comes out of nowhere.)--Bbb23 (talk) 00:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23 I have, though mostly the earlier ones have stuck with me. -- ferret (talk) 00:46, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you remember Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire where the fake Professor Moody turns Malfoy into a ferret? Was that one of yours? :p --Bbb23 (talk) 00:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Bbb23 "What are you doing?" "Teaching." -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"Moody, we never use transfiguration as a punishment. Surely Professor Dumbledore told you that." "He might've mentioned it." Honestly, for an evil death eater, the fake Moody was quite sympathetic, although that tongue mannerism when he got low on polyjuice potion was a bit much.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:44, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Possible undisclosed paid editing/sockpuppet

I noticed that Royal Match had been PRODded for being spammy. The creator User:LittleNirvana had flatly denied any sort of paid editing, but the article lacks sources and seems like an advertisement. Dream Games, the developers, had been sent to deletion review by User:H5r2n, who is a WP:SPI. Weirdly LittleNirvana also participated in the review endorsing the deletion, but created the Royal Match page a couple days later. Uploading images with permission from the developer no less, which suggests that they are in fact employed by Dream Games also. It seems they may be using multiple accounts to avoid looking too much like advertising. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 07:44, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Zxcvbnm No apparent technical relationship, different continents. Sorry20 was also involved in Dream Games, if you want to pursue from a pure UPE angle. I'd agree there's potential UPE here, just no CU relationship between this set of users. -- ferret (talk) 15:18, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well at the very least I asked for more information on their page because it could be a case of just a misunderstanding. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 16:24, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kiwifarms URL

I have started a discussion on the VDARE and Right Stuff blog talks saying I think the url should be excised. Since that's relevant to the current Kiwifarms discussion and were mentioned would it be okay if I left a message on the Kiwi Farms discussion saying I started those ones and that people can chip in? Don't think it'd be canvassing since I wouldn't tell people to take a stance but idk cos it was already mentioned. Not tryna canvas though. Also idk if it's self-promo Stephanie921 (talk) 21:07, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephanie921 Probably the better choice than talk page mentions or pings would be to simply leave a brief note in the Kiwi Farms discussion linking to the others. This is fine as it's been mentioned in those discussion, IMO. -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think u misunderstood me - I was gonna leave a msg on the Kiwifarms discussion Stephanie921 (talk) 21:19, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephanie921 Then I was agreeing. -- ferret (talk) 21:22, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Oh okay awesome, I just did it :) Thank you massively for ur help, you're very kind! Stephanie921 (talk) 21:26, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Did I do it right Stephanie921 (talk) 22:08, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that's fine in my view -- ferret (talk) 22:09, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Luvly jubbly, ty! Stephanie921 (talk) 22:47, 5 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

on Topic of the Nexus Mods revert

So why did you revert most of the edits on the nexus mod page including it's citation & such rather than simply editing it? 24.101.82.80 (talk) 04:22, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Simple: As I said, most of it's unnecessary or even outright wrong. The edit as a whole was not an improvement to the page. -- ferret (talk) 13:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

So which parts are wrong we only have alleged for what nexus mods said,among other things such as the basics of what the mod did was already baked into the game

Otherwise why use the secondary citations and not a primary one (Which I used to make this) 24.101.82.80 (talk) 23:27, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also if you like,we could talk on discord 24.101.82.80 (talk) 23:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia prefers secondary sources. We only use primary sources for the most basic facts that don't require any interpretation. We also don't need excessive quotes, as quotes themselves should be limited for copyright reasons. -- ferret (talk) 23:40, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Query

Hello,

I have a question I was wondering if I could ask u as an administrator:

TeeVeeed was banned from editing under the Kiwi Farms topic. Since Tee's recent vio of their ban was logged under gender and sex in the Arbitration Committee records here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109061667 - would this msg they sent on Talk:The Right Stuff (blog): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109039416 be another topic ban vio since The Right Stuff is similar to the Kiwi Farms site? Stephanie921 (talk) 20:34, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephanie921 No. The topic ban was explicitly covering Kiwi Farms, not "and other similar sites". -- ferret (talk) 21:00, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay ty. I was asking since u logged it under gender and sex so I thought it might this fall under that Stephanie921 (talk) 21:10, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Gender and Sex is the basis of the sanction, but the specific sanction put into place was a TBAN covering Kiwi Farms. -- ferret (talk) 21:15, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, ty. And I'm sorry for upsetting you Stephanie921 (talk)

Urgent

Please look at this immediately and delete the revision if you wish. TW: Suicide Stephanie921 (talk) 02:03, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/1109117004 Stephanie921 (talk) 02:04, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephanie921 Already handled. As information, I watchlist every user I warn or block for a period of time. -- ferret (talk) 02:06, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome, ty for telling me. Btw, I noticed on the deletion log u said my rev was "non-contentious housekeeping". What does that mean Stephanie921 (talk) 02:21, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also I wasn't gravedancing, I was being genuine since SWinxy was still replying to Edaiko even though the conversation was over. I was trying to end it Stephanie921 (talk) 02:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Stephanie921 Re: REVDEL. I chose to use the "non-contentious housekeeping" label because I felt there was a valid reason to hide your edit summary, but I did not want your edit to be labelled as disruptive or vulgar. Re: Gravedancing, if you simply informed of the block it would be different, but you elaborated from there about their actions or motivations. It's very easy to get caught up in these types of debates and conflicts, especially if you have any sense of feeling like there was a "win", but it's best not to talk about them after they're blocked. Let it lie. He wasn't going to reply to SWinxy, so that would have been the end of it. -- ferret (talk) 02:26, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I don't get ur reasoning. I elaborated on their reasoning but not in a way where I was celebrating them being defeated, I was just saying they'd been blocked. I thought saying they'd been blocked with no context would be confusing. I wasn't writing it to say I'd won, and I thought this was clear by me saying to move on rather than encouraging celebration. I don't understand how that's not simply informing of the block and I especially don't understand how that's gravedancing. I'm not upset at you I'm just sincerely confused.

And thank you for explaining the reason for that label, I appreciate you not equating my rev with Edaiko's Stephanie921 (talk) 02:32, 8 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]