User talk:Trizek (WMF)

Dead link

Hi, red link in your message about talkpage discussion ... on my talkpage. Tony (talk) 08:39, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi Tony, and thank you for letting me know.

It is very strange: I've used the same code as on the test message above, where the link is blue.

I'll investigate the issue and provide an update.

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 08:44, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

A little heads-up

Hello there Trizek,

I'm currently taking a small WikiBreak. I'll certainly be able to help, but will be slow to respond. Thanks for leaving me a message on my talk page though (which is a rare occurrence XD)

Rebestalic^{[dubious—discuss]} 20:16, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Rebestalic and than you for your reply.

Enjoy your wikibreak: taking care of yourself should be your priority. :)

Best, Trizek (WMF) (talk) 13:49, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello

I received some message at de:Benutzer_Diskussion:Bookku since I do not know German language, I tried google translator but it was not clear enough to me. Is there any thing I can be of help ?

Thanks & Warm regards

Bookku (talk) 10:37, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Hello Bookku

I've made a query to find newcomers on German Wikipedia and you were in the list I got. :)

My message is an invite for you to participate to a consultation about talk pages. We are looking for opinions about how people use talk pages on the wikis, and what is their feeling about that.

Since you are more active on English Wikipedia, I invite you to participate to the consultation, but in English.

Your opinion matters! Thank you for your help, Trizek (WMF) (talk) 10:52, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Call for submissions at Wikimania 2019

Re: Call for submissions for the Community Growth space at Wikimania_2019. This comes a little late. You are probably unaware that applications for a scholarship to Wikimania were closed and decided already some time ago. As on of the major participants working with Community Tech for years in some highly important new policies/software developments for the quality control of new articles, I am naturally disappointed that my application for a scholarship has again been declined. Unlike the many privileged salaried staff who enjoy the same 'business' trip every year, very few users are accorded help with attending the Wikimania conferences. It is too much to expect volunteers who spend 1000s of hours contributing to Wikipedia and its development to spend upwards of $2000 to attend this event and provide their input. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:00, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Kudpung กุดผึ้ง, I'm sorry that your application has been declined. I'm just the messenger, but I can understand that you are disappointed. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I realise you are just the messenger, but you are both salaried and will almost certainly be enjoying a free 'business' trip to Sweden to discuss all your work and projects. Apologies if I'm wrong. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:07, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

You mean that I will go to Wikimania for one of the most tiring weeks of my year of work? Wikimania was a pleasant relaxing moment when I attended as a volunteer, now it is very different. I'm not going there to waste donors money. So please avoid that kind of undertone accusations with me. Trizek (WMF) (talk) 07:19, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

i surely hope if my english was more skillful

if i do not know how to say a certain word or word in english, then is it allowed to help yourself in using google translate? i know that some websites are against rules, is that so? (i'm really right now so if there is no permission then please avoid punishment.Atlantic Channel (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Hello Atlantic Channel

You should ask the person who welcomed you on your talk page (see at the bottom): John of Reading. He knows English Wikipedia better than me, so he will give you an accurate reply!

Best, Trizek (WMF) (talk) 07:25, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

Unfortunately, John's reading is not active till then, I tried to ask him before reading the notice at the top, but I can notAtlantic Channel (talk) 12:23, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

revert

salut trizek, juste pour te dire, j'ai laissé un message là.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(idea_lab)#reverts

je pointe une situation bizarre. statistiquement je suis souvent réverté ici, et rarement sur wiki francais.

la situation pourrai etre la même pour un russe qui écrit sur wikipedia en francais et source avec des sources russes.

grosso modo, si je suis réverté, comme il est difficile de dėbattre dans une langue qui n'est pas la notre, on laisse le révert. Si il y a trop de réverts, on ne contribue plus.

je ne vois pas comment améliorer ça. mais je pense que c'est mesurable.

Ce n'est pas le fait d'avoir été réverté et par qui, on s'en fout. C'est la situation qui est bizarre quand elle est vécue. Cette impression d'etre accueilli dans une wikipedia, et rejetée d'une autre alors même que la personne n'a pas changé (et son type de contribution non plus).

Le problème est encore plus important du fait que wiki en est une wikipedia DEPUIS laquelle les articles sont traduits ensuite vers d'autres langues un peu comme le centre d'une toile d'araignėe. Hors je ne pense pas que les petits articles(bout de la toile) soient traduits vers la wiki en. Je suppose que la plupart du temps, ça va de l'intérieur vers l'extérieur de la toile. (grosses langues vers petites langues ). Donc je pense qu'il est important que des gens de petites langue puissent écrire sur "wiki en" pour l'enrichir.

Bref. Je ne sais pas si ce problème est valable pour wiki fr aussi. Seul un étranger le saurait.

Comme c'est ton job l'accueil, je pointait juste un exemple de problème, qui pourrai être évalué pour estimer si il y a besoin d'une action ou non. Wikiscan indique le pourcentage de revert par exemple. Comparer les pourcentages de reverts sur les différentes wikipedia, voir même sur les différents projets pourrai être un indice vraiment interessant pour vous. Je veux dire que les gens sont découragés par les réverts et les conflits. Un révert peut être une bonne chose. Mais si on considère les contributions comme une continuité, soit je ne suis pas assez réverté sur wiki fr, soit je suis trop réverté sur wiki en.

Bref, j'espère que tu aura compris la bizarreté que je pointe. Je pense que c'est mesurable.

Je ne sais pas vraiment la cause par contre. Si c'est mon anglais qui est horrible, ils devraient reformuler en belle phrase au lieu de reverter. Je suis un panneau fluo quand j'écris anglais peut être, et ça dis frappez moi?

Pour des idées d'amélioration, il pourrai y avoir accès au taux de revert de la wikipedia principale de la personne par exemple, pour les patrouilleurs et quelque chose qui indiquerai que ce n'est pas "sa wikipedia principale/sa wikipedia de langue native".

Vatadoshu^french 21:37, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

l'impression esf peut être d'autant plus frappante, qu'en général, j'ai mis presque la même contribution sur l'article wiki fr 2 minutes auparavant sans révert. Vatadoshu^french 21:52, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Bonjour Vatadoshu

De manière générale, la « bonne pratique » est d'expliquer à la personne ce qui n'a pas été bien fait. Ce n'est pas toujours fait. La communauté francophone a mis en place des bonnes pratiques, qui semblent porter leurs fruits. Je ne sais pas s'il existe la même chose sur la Wikipédia anglophone.

Je vais transmettre ton retour à l'équipe Growth avec qui je travaille : leur but est d'améliorer l'accueil sur les Wikipédia de taille moyenne. De bonnes pratiques concernant l'accueil des nouveaux ont également été publiées dans le cadre de leur mission.

Il ne faut pas oublier non plus que certains projets sont plus actifs que d'autres suivant les wikis. Le projet Médecine sur Wikipédia en anglais est très actif. Ce n'est peut-être pas le cas chez les francophones.

Trizek (WMF) (talk) 09:57, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

ok. Vatadoshu^french 18:41, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Thread for your attention

Trizek, I noticed that you contribute to Growth Team Features talk page on a fairly regular basis. There's an active thread now which, in my opinion, will benefit from contribution on your part as a WMF employee. Thank you. Thread: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Growth_Team_features#Some_newcomers_need_a_lot_more_attention 188.66.34.165 (talk) 18:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the notice! I'm just back from vacation, so I'm catching up, one wiki at the time. :) Trizek (WMF) (talk) 14:56, 5 September 2022 (UTC)

Benoit, thank you for paying attention to it. I have proposed a few things in a separate thread, please take a look: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Growth_Team_features#Broader_view_of_the_problem_and_a_small_poll

Mentorship

Would you have an issue with me rejoining the list of mentors? I had paused my involvement due to a break from Wikipedia but it extended past the time allotted for and I felt I needed more time. Editor retention and education is important to me. Wikipedia has given me so much over the years, even before I joined as an editor. I read three to four times as much as I edit. I am believe strongly in the pillars of the community, primarily civility in discussion and kindness in our interactions, especially with those we may disagree with. I wasn't sure if I could just go back an re-add my name or not so I thought best to just ask. --ARoseWolf 15:24, 2 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello @ARoseWolf

You rejoining the list is up to English Wikipedia's guidances regarding mentorship. And as I read them, I don't see why you can't rejoin. We are all humans, so it is normale to take a break time to time. :)

If you rejoin, and need to take a break, we recently added some features to Special:MentorDashboard (a page mentors have access to) in order to mark yourself as away (this redirects your mentees to other mentors with a notice) or to diminish the number of question you might receive. This way, you can regulate your workload regarding helping newcomers.

Thank you for your interest in helping others! Trizek (WMF) (talk) 14:56, 5 September 2022 (UTC)