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Recent blanket removal

These sources have been on the cholesterol article for some time and it would need more arguments than "quackery sources" to blanket remove the entire paragraph. Altanner1991 (talk) 01:52, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Where are they on the cholesterol article? You may be confused because those sources are not on that page. Many of those are unreliable primary sources, they fail WP:MEDRS Psychologist Guy (talk) 01:56, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It seems you have been trying to add this same crap two years ago [1]. The sources fail MEDRS. They are not good sources to be citing. I am not sure why you think we should include them. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:00, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well uh it *very* clearly says in the edit summary from those Two years ago that it is being moved from the cholesterol article... umm so don't say that ok??!! Altanner1991 (talk) 02:12, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well they were from the cholesterol article. Altanner1991 (talk) 16:30, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Why do you think the content was removed? It was likely a vandal or fringe pusher who added such content. The content was removed because it is unreliable or sources taken out of context. I can't be bothered right now to go through the cholesterol article and see who added it two years ago but the information is incorrect and many of those sources fail Wikipedia policy. The content has not been on Wikipedia for years, so I am not sure why you are putting it back on now on a different article.

Part of the text you added was "Recent meta-analysis has questioned the rigor of previous research on the effect of dietary cholesterol on cardiovascular disease risk, noting that dietary cholesterol had little impact on blood cholesterol level in about 60% of people" [2]. This is a reliable source but it is not recent, it is from 2015. I have read over the paper. Nowhere does it say dietary cholesterol had little impact on blood cholesterol level in about 60% of people. I read over the conclusion of the paper in full, near the end it notes "In conclusion, the effect of dietary cholesterol on incident CAD and serum cholesterol outcomes remains unclear. In-tervention trials showed a statistically signiﬁcant increase in total,LDL, and HDL cholesterol when comparing intervention doses of 500–900 mg/d dietary cholesterol with control doses. [3]. So what you are adding is a false citation, the paper calls for further research on the topic and notes the outcomes are "unclear" due to lack of methodologic rigor. It is obvious you are not reading over the sources you are citing. They were deleted for a very good reason. Just because these sources were on the cholesterol article two or three years ago is not a valid reason to re-add them here. Psychologist Guy (talk) 02:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I think I didn't explain myself properly. These portions had been removed from the cholesterol article only by me to put them on this article. And aside from your analysis of the studies' methods, what about these sources is any less reliable than the others on the page? Altanner1991 (talk) 16:33, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You are entirely correct regarding WP:MEDRS, thanks. Altanner1991 (talk) 17:26, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have restored but marked as deleted a reply above which was modified non transparently after it was replied to [4]. I have left the modified reply intact except dating it according to when this modification was carried out. [5] Nil Einne (talk) 12:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ansel Keys

I think it should be made more clear that Keys put forward the lipid hypothesis in order to protect sugar from coming into the spotlight. He was a sugar industry man. SCIdude (talk) 11:08, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]