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D.A. Sebasstian

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I previously speedily deleted this as A7, but it now asserts notability. These are articles about a musician, his band, and his record label. However, none appear to be notable per WP:MUSIC. Searching for all of these bring up forum posts and download pages, but nothing that would satisfy the notability guideline.

Also nominating:

--Coredesat 04:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Deletion? I have posted updates to a page a previous author had posted on Wikipedia years ago for one of my recording projects Kill Switch...Klick. Now it is being considered for deletion. This is odd.

I added two complimentary pages about my discography outside of Kill Switch...Klick and my Label and Film Company. These are also being considered for deletion. I was not using these as Vanity Pages. My own websites get thousands of visitors a day. I doubt anyone could get "more famous" from a listing on Wikipedia, I just want the facts about myself to be accurate. If people post about me on WIki I would apprectiate that. DIY. D.A.

  • Weak keep at least Kill Switch...Klick as the reputable Allmusic profile describes them, "Originally the solo project of composer/singer d.A. Sebasstian, Seattle's Kill Switch Klick became one of the Northwest's leading industrial crossover bands."[1] (Allmusic also confirms some of the production credits.[2]) It might be best to merge all this into a single Sebasstian bio if we can get stronger notability. --Dhartung | Talk 06:14, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Print citculation is 300,000 in the Chicago and Mid West. The article also explains my progression from musician to film maker. I also have the MTV pay stubs (through ASCAP) for material on the Made Show if need be, as well as an archive of Kill Switch...Klick press including cover mention on Outburn Magazine, full pages in A.P., The Stranger, The Rocket, Seattle Times, etc. Most of this was pre-internet. The reason to keep the pages separate, is- they are separate entities. I constructed the D.A. Sebasstian page, as Discography, Writting Credits for national magazines and Film Creds. These are a separate things from Kill Switch...Klick and people who want to know who the band is/was may or may not be interested in the Surf & Twang music I'm making now nor the articles I write for Ol' Skool Magazine or CK Deluxe. I have also progressed into a film maker. The film Hot Rod girls Save The World is getting a huge underground buzz and is due out in mid 2007. It seems jumbled to have all this under one heading. D.A. Sebasstian --Sebasstian 17:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Sebasstian you may want to take a look at WP:COI. Also instead of blanketing this page with your achievements, you might want to add some references to the actual article. Please see WP:RS for what is and is not a reliable source. As it stands now the article does not assert notability per WP:N or WP:BIO. --Daniel J. Leivick 21:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which article are you talking about? Just the D.A. Sebasstian page? WP:COI can not not apply (especially self promotion) to the Kill Switch...Klick page as I only added the D.A. Sebasstian and Go-Kustom pages. I did not start the Kill Switch...Klick page. I do not know who did. All I have done to the KsK page is correct mis-information and since it is about me I am the verification. Also the D.A. Sebasstian page is only a list. What needs to be verified?

--Sebasstian 02:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • I am not referring to the articles themselves but to the AfD debate. AfDs are specifically mentioned under COI. Verifaction cannot come from the subject that is why I would like to see some external sources that deal with these topics. --Daniel J. Leivick 03:09, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Last article for D.A. Sebasstian (explained above)-

http://www.maximumink.com/articles.php?articleId=714

Press archives (all from hard copy that can be provided- not all available) http://www.go-kustom.com/kskpress01.html

In print for Go-Kustom with current iTunes links. http://www.go-kustom.com/catalog.html

D.A. Sebasstian movie links http://www.go-kustom.com/hotrodgirlssavetheworld.html

What else do you need?

  • What I see here are three links to your own web page. The only source that comes close to being acceptable is the first one from maximumink, but it in and of itself does not assert notability because it doesn't really contain enough info to create three articles let alone one. In order for a subject to meet WP:N there must be sufficient external sources to write an article on the subject. You may well be on the rise and soon there may be sufficient info to justify the article but for now it doesn't appear to be the case. Finally it may not be Wikipedia policy but personally I feel that if the only person arguing to keep an article is the subject than they probably are not notable. --Daniel J. Leivick 04:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The links to my web pages are archives of previously non-web material (print magazines). I offered to mail you hard copies. I save this stuff for my kids. Did you look at the links? This is riduculous. --Sebasstian 04:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW how long has the Kill Switch...Klick article been up? Who originally created it? I had never heard of Wikipedia until a year or so ago- I was Googling Kill Switch...Klick to quell rumors that we broke up- and Wiki came up. I checked the page and there was quite a few bit of mis-information. I found that I could correct the info. Later I heard a piece on NPR about the Wiki experiments in Encylopedic information and it made sense. Why wasn't the Kill Switch...Klick article put up for deletion a year ago? Why didn't anyone delete it a year ago? It's virtually the same, except for a few corrections. --Sebasstian 04:48, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Finally I submit these Wiki pages as comparison to what I did with the Kill Switch...Klick & D.A. Sebasstian articles- Spahn Ranch (band), Matt Green, Athan Maroulis. Same level of band notariety. Same levels of individual notoriety. Those pages stand. I've spent way too much time on this. I've got to finish editing my film.

--Sebasstian 06:11, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please check this link and look at the numbers. http://uncutvideo.aol.com/users/dasebasstian/0a5ef121dcedf7bbe330dbc3c043c0e9?index=2 --Sebasstian 14:13, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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