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Set Album to Class B & Top Importance Megamanic 09:20, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

<^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>

Various concerns

"penny" and "pennie" are used. one may be incorrect. Badanedwa 05:41, May 20, 2004 (UTC)


The link to the sound sample doesn't work. Ini 18:31, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)


The album was released in the USA during the last week of December, 1979. I bought it upon release. The whole idea behind releasing it right after Christmas was for it to be the last album to come out in the 1970s. It has been standard record company practice to put the next year's date on releases issued during the last two weeks of December.


The quality of the article is somewhat tarnished by the fact that in the introductory paragraph there is a mention of how the cover is a homage to and early Elvis record and then goes on to say, "and equally, the London Calling cover is paid homage to on the Tony Hawk's American Wasteland soundtrack cover." I think this should be removed because it just sounds bad to compare a Tony Hawk soundtrack to two landmark albums. This would be better in the trivia section.

Is it punk?

I'm kind of uncomfortable with having this, and the two Clash albums released thereafter, being catagorized as just punk. By the time this came out, the punk scene in the UK was pretty much over; all the bands still around by that time had, like The Clash, branched out into other styles. And because this encompasses so many different styles, I think it would be better if these styles could be identified rather than having the three later Clash records just being labeled as purely "punk rock", because they had outgrown that narrow label. I'll hesitate to do anything until someone else agrees with me on this.

  • I would disagree. Punk isn't something that can be defined by one sound. It's more about attitude. These albums DO contain musical elements of punk, but it is mixed with other styles to create something unique and different. I still think this deserves to be classified as punk-what else would you call it? It was certainly different from the cock rock, glam rock, and ballad rock (Journey, Boston, Kansas, ect) that was happening at the same time.
i would just classify it as "rock". "Punk isn't something that can be defined by one sound" is inherently ridiculous, as that could imply that bands like sonic youth or the jesus and mary chain are punk, which they are not, they're alternative rock. punk is a relatively narrow musical convention, which this album clearly supercedes. Joeyramoney 04:37, 10 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Bullshit... i agree with the idea that "punk isn't something that can be defined by one sound". Television, Talking Heads, Suicide, The Dead Boys and The Ramones were all punk bands by definition since the started the movement, and didn's have the same sound. The biggest proof is Big Black (Steve Albini's first band), a band with a very challenging sound (not fitting the "narrow musical convention" that in Joeyramoney's (narrow) point of view, punk is), yet Steve Albini was always very clear to say that Big Black was a punk band —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.49.48.22 (talk) 22:59, 7 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Wrong 'Em Boyo

Wrong 'Em Boyo wasn't written by Strummer/Jones, it's an old reggae song by the Rulers, that they covered. Revolution Rock was a cover as well.

- Actually, that's not totally correct. The original tune Stagger Lee, or Stack O Lee has been passed down as a blues song for ages. Its not really entirely possible to attribute the song to any one individual.

While it is distantly descended from Stagger Lee, it shares more musical DNA ( right down to the name ) with "Wrong Emboyo" by The Rulers. [1] Song may have been written by "C. Alphanso", the Rulers version was issued as a single in Jamaica on Sir JJ and in the UK on Rio. - 60.36.46.80 06:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Train in Vain

The article notes that Train in Vain's lyrics aren't given on the insert, correctly explaining that it was a last minute addition. But the article currently makes no mention of the more notable fact that the first batch of album sleeves had already been printed up before the song was added, and as a result it was not mentioned in the track listing - and that it remained off the track listing during subsequent pressings making it one of the most popular "hidden" album tracks ever. I believe it was left off the sleeve until about 2000, but I don't know exactly when it was finally added. Can one of you more knowledgable Clash trivia buffs out there add this info? 171.159.64.10 00:39, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I don't know the date but I stuck a mention in for now. Guinnog 00:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Jazz

I think it's importent to inform the readers who Plays the Saxophone in Jimmy Jazz... don't you?