Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/AgroEurasia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Now that apparently adequate Turkish souces have been found, the only remaining reason for deletion is the spammy tone, which can be addressed through editing. Sandstein 06:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

AgroEurasia

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Only one source, the fair's organisers, so nothing independent. One of millions of trade fairs held around the world. Creator is one G Engun, which is the name of the event's press contact see [1]. In other words, this is spam. Guy (Help!) 18:31, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Neither the creator's COI nor that fact that other articles don't exist is a legit reason for deletion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Quite right, the reasons for deletion are lack of notability, absence of independent sources and promotional tone. Guy (Help!) 09:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails WP:GNG, no significant coverage in reliable sources. ukexpat (talk) 18:53, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep seems to be sources available that are third party with a quick search. Agree with JzG that author's COI does not invalidate the article's notability. SGGH ^ping! 19:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think you mean "BMK" and not "JzG". Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The sources all track back to press releases from the promoter, it's a generic trade show so this is not a surprise. Guy (Help!) 09:02, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of this discussion have been left with the following WikiProjects: Trade and Agriculture. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:03, 20 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Turkey-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 00:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Delete The only coverage I could find using a cursory Google News search of "Agro Eurasia" were these [2], [3], [4]. The first seems to have nothing to do with this particular entity, the third is a press release. Only the second one is an actual article about the article's subject. One article doesn't represent significant coverage to me. In other news, Google Translation is really helpful. <>Multi‑Xfer<> (talk) 07:17, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think the second is also based on a press release, but from an exhibitor rather than the organiser. Guy (Help!) 09:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I recall correctly, Google News only holds articles in its database for a limited time, although I cannot recall what that time period is. Since the last AgroEurasia was held in December, it's possible that any other articles about it, if any, may have cycled off. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:01, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just to note: this is not a sexy trade show, like COMDEX, taking place in a media capital, it's an agricultural trade show held in Turkey. Expectations of the amount of media coverage need to be adjusted accordingly. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:05, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My search was of Google's News Archive, on which I've found sources as early as 1906 (for papers that have since been digitized). While Google is by no means the only place to look for sources, it's the most immediately helpful one and hasn't really turned up anything. It is up to those who wish to keep the article to find sources and incorporate them to satisfy the GNG. If anyone can find at least two reliable sources (not press releases or ads) covering this trade show then I'll change my vote to keep. I'd like to keep this (after all, I did take the time to actually look for sources) but only if it satisfies our guidelines for inclusion. <>Multi‑Xfer<> (talk) 05:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation, I had forgotten about the archives. Beyond My Ken (talk) 17:36, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails GNG and there just aren't sources. In order for us to have an article, there must be independent media coverage, and there simply isn't. AniMate 22:19, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - being one of the the largest agricultural exhibitions in Eurasia, it should be notable. Sources can be found somewhere. Dew Kane (talk) 03:40, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You may be right but until they're found we don't have anything... I've done my bit to find sources. Maybe there are some articles in Turkish newspapers or trade journals or something that aren't online. Like I said, if they can be found this discussion will be moot. <>Multi‑Xfer<> (talk) 07:08, 24 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - note that the exhibition is better known by its Turkish name, "Avrasya Tarim". Turkish sources such as 'Avrasya Tarım 2009' fuarı açıldı and Avrasya Tarım 2008'e 50 bin ziyaretçi bekleniyor seem to establish ample notability. Note that the second link discusses an expected visitor count of over 50 thousand people to the 2008 exhibition. Regards, Arbitrarily0 ^(talk) 01:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Arbitrarily0's sources from Turkish newspapers; it appears to be independent news coverage. Paul Erik ^{(talk)(contribs)} 03:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.