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scepter Sceptre is included in the category, 'Roman Catholic vestments'. Catholic clergy do not bear sceptres. Roman Catholic bishops carry episcopal staffs or croziers. A pope may carry a staff with a cross on it. It is technically incorrect to refer to them as sceptres.

Gaz 3-7-06

Functionality of the Sceptre

When the Crown is in proper Order and all is in proper functionality, the Sceptre emits a Holy Smoke when there be no fire. Gnostics (talk) 22:29, 25 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maces are not Sceptres

While there might be very early, even pre-historic, common ptoto-type for both the mace and the sceptre, they have very different histories and ceremonial significance. First the Sceptre is always carried by the actual sovereign or his consort as a symbol of their royal authority, whereas the ceremonial mace, which originally were simply clubs used by those protecting the royal persons, are carried by their defenders or others charged with maintaining public order, e.g., a sergant-at-arms. The only real exception might be the ceremonial clubs carried by the Transylvanian and Croatian viceroys, the 'vojvodas' and 'bans', which are effectively sceptres, and even were the models for the Romanian Sceptre. Even when a ceremonial mace represents the Sovereign or rather the authority of the Crown--as in the Commonwealth parliements--neither the Sovereign or the Governor General ever carry it.

Sceptres have never formed a part of the insignia of popes or bishops, so why would they be included in the latter category? Crosiers and walking sticks are not sceptres in either form or function.67.52.199.50 (talk) 05:58, 20 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sceptre Company

Leafcutter Brands is a Sceptre Company in Nigeria.

'Transfer of Power'?

I quote verbatim from the article:

A delegation sent by Sri la Sri Ambalavana Pandarasannadhi Swamigal, the head of the Thiruvavaduthurai Adheenam, presented the sengol to then-Prime Minister of India, Jawaharlal Nehru, on 14 August 1947, accompanied by the recital of hymns from Thevaram to symbolise transfer of power from Britain to Indians.

I'm sorry but there's no single documented evidence written in the 1940s or 1950s that prove this claim. All the sources are articles from 2023, while books written during the independence merely note this event as taking place in Nehru's residence. There is neither no pictures of the Adheenam giving the Sengol to Mountbatten and receiving it back. A religious ceremony taking place in the president's residence cannot be claimed 'to symbolise transfer of power from Britain to Indians'.

A Sceptre conceived of by a religious establishment crafted in Madras was indeed presented to Nehru in August 1947. To make bogus claims that such an event was of historical significance is simply nonsense. Therefore I request this seemly propaganda information to be removed until we get historical documentation of such a event. SubtleChuckle (talk) 15:03, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]