Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Barry Ley
Possibly self-published, autobiographical, improper tone, non-notable living person, wild claims with unverifiable links. Unreliable sources and many failed verification. Loudenvier 15:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete - Notability is in question & sources dubious or absent. At best merge with Blaggers a book authored by him.--Nate 16:09, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Deletion of other people's comments.
Gelston, or anyone else for tha matter. Do you really think that it is fair to remove other people's oppinions from this discussion page? Clearly it is not. Try to act fairly please.
Wow. This article seems to be attracting a lot of attention. For my part, the links provide sound verification for its inclusion in Wikipedia. Ley seems to someone who stirs up a lot of passion, one way or the other, in several of the editors at least. And Google´s one and a half million listed pages about him certainlty suggest sufficient notability.
- comment- not really, came across it as while looking the contributions of an unhelpful editor on another article. I generally try to keep any one I come across in a good state, wikify an add citation requests but these were repeatedly removed or bad sources added. Also if you google "Barry Ley", including the quotes it give 560, this looks for the exact phrase, I did a UK only search around 167 are based here if he is based in the UK these are the most likely to be relevant & getting few & far between esp as unless he's a member of "PLYMOUTH & DISTRICT CONSUMER GROUP" the first few are not about him.
- Also I notice the only pages you have edited are the same as the banned User:DrParkes any relation?--Nate 16:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism
As far as I can see, DrParkes is the victim of the bias and vandalism of a small clique of Judo fans. No relation, but as you guys have teamed up to get him banned while you sabotage his work, he needs all the supprot he can get. Kentkent 21:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- If I search for "Felipe Machado" I receive 118.000 google hits. Should I start my autobiography on wikipedia? "Felipe Rocha" returns 30.600 hist. Loudenvier, my nickname, and used everywhere only by me, returns 911 hits. I think my nickname is more notable than Barry Ley in general. I would never write about Loudenvier on wikipedia though. Loudenvier 17:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Over a million hits for "Barry Ley" His book did indeed make it to No 1 on Amazon bestseller list albeit only for a short time and, as pointed out by another editor, about one and a half millionth place on the all time list. Out of nearly 100 million titles on their inventory since Amazon's inception. It seems positively vindictive that you should decry his work so, in the full knowledge that you have had him banned from replying. Are you afraid he will keep coming up with more proof for his claims, just as he was doing right up until the moment you managed to get him cut off?
I say good luck to him. I hope others will rally round this poor victim of malevolant vandalism. Keep your chin up DrParkes. There are plenty of us cheering for you. Kentkent 14:48, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- Just took Londenier's idea another way, searched for my exact name (in just the UK) and came up with 89 hits of which 4 involved me & 2 were from the same site so optimistically that 0.5% extrapolated that means about 25 of the exact matches for Barry lee are about him...--Nate 17:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Keep this article
This is a noteworthy subject. And it is unfair foreveryone EXCEPT DrParkes to have their say. There are plenty of sources citations and proof. More than any other article on Wikipedia it seems. The book is a bestseller and there are a huge number of other books with their own articles. Ley is a fascinating subject, well covered by the media. Unfortunately, DrParkes has committed the sin of telling the world about the true origins of BJJ in other articles. He obviously did not realise the political power of the Judo set in this organisation. Preech Jigoro Kano, or hold your tongue! Kentkent 19:51, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Absolutely not notable enough for Wiki. --VS talk 11:43, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Not notable, NPOV.FlowWTG 16:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete -- no verifiable third-party assertion of notability. -- The Anome 16:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete -- WP:COI, WP:OR, WP:NN, all the usual suspects.Peter Rehse 05:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Delete-- Not notable. The best sources for him only have him appearing in a Blog, a Magazine, a recorded of him winning 3rd place in a competition? Besides, a google search of him only provides 569 hits, and for the most part they are for different Barry Leys or his book selling on E-Bay or Amazon. Gelston 07:24, 17 March 2007 (UTC)