Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Rossant

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The result was keep. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 18:13, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

John Rossant[edit]

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Journalist turned public relations professional, now head of events promoter. Only two sources, of which just one (in "Swiss Style Magazine") counts as coverage of Rossant per se, and notability of that publication is dubious. The other is not about Rossant but is about a house he restored in Normandy. In my judgment this article fails to meet the GNG. CheeseStakeholder (talk) 15:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment - Per WP:NRVE, topic notability is about the availability of significant coverage in reliable sources, and not based upon whether or not sources are present in articles. Also, sources are not required to be available online. Northamerica1000^(talk) 09:46, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not picking up any significant secondary coverage of this person in Google. There is a mention in passing in an article in L'Express. There is a Liberation citation but it appears to be written by him. The Wikipedia article was written by a person with such intimate knowledge of the subject that the ages of his children are given, suggesting the article was either written by the subject or someone close to him. Hence if there was any other significant coverage available I think we would be seeing it in the article. CheeseStakeholder (talk) 13:53, 25 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That is called an absence of evidence argument, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Unscintillating (talk) 03:15, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:04, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

weak delete, some coverage, but a very weak claim to notability. Hairhorn (talk) 18:14, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep – This person meets WP:BASIC and WP:GNG, having received significant coverage in reliable sources per:

Swiss Style Magazine article
The New York Times article, which covers work Rossant has done
Espace Abonné article. (Beyond passing mentions, written by Sibyl Vincendon.)

—Northamerica1000^(talk) 10:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Only the Swiss Style article comes even remotely close to being "significant coverage" per the guidelines. CheeseStakeholder (talk) 22:56, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What "guidelines" are those? As per WP:GNG, "Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention". The NY Times article is more than a trivial mention (arguably an entire article about the topic), so it is "significant coverage". Unscintillating (talk) 03:15, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Passes WP:GNG. In addition to sources already listed above, a look at the first page of Google news hits shows an NPR interview while Rossant was 'Business Week' magazine's Rome Bureau Chief", a BusinessWeek reference to the book that Rossant wrote, a "brief article" at Advertising Age, and four different French sources. Unscintillating (talk) 03:15, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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