Talk:Visegrád 24

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I left the following feedback for the creator/future reviewers while reviewing this article: Social media sites aren't reliable references and shouldn't be in references - can you remove those? Thanks.

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 03:57, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! I made some edits to the page because there was a warning that the content was unverified and biased. it shows as a total change because my browser didn't let me publish, so I had to copy and paste my work through tabs. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Penini S (talk • contribs) 13:26, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I'd say this article is highly biased and reliant on sources that are themselves not reliable / unbiased. NPOV etc problems. KenThomas (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Equally, not sure this is a notable article. KenThomas (talk) 00:49, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On my second read-through, this article as-is appears to be relatively or highly biased against V24. It chooses errors or misinformation which do not seem representative of the whole of content shared by V24, to paint what is likely a false and negative light. It also spends an enormous amount of time and copy space, delving into the details of multiple alleged negative incidents -- far more space than a typical Wikipedia article would spend on far more notable outlets.

I won't tag NPOV at this point, but it is warranted. This article should be shortened, become far shorter, and restrict claims to those that come from reliable, non-social-media sources. KenThomas (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For instance: the article relies on claims made in "Visegrad Insight," a much larger site which is essentially a blog run by a group of individuals, with evidently little to no editorial oversight or fact-checking. This is a highly questionable, non-neutral, non-reliable source. It does not necessarily meet the standard of notability, and does not have a Wikipedia article-- raising the question of why V24 should be covered when it is not (etc).

Many other alleged sources appear to have roughly similar problems with reliability. KenThomas (talk) 01:08, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glancing through the edit history, I would say that older versions of the article were more neutral, though also problematic. (Is it a news service, or is it a Twitter account that purports to be a news service?!?). I think however it would be better to try to move back closer to older, more neutral language that is not so accusatory. FWIW V24 does seem to forward mostly accurate information, if with a clear conservative or right-wing slant. I'm not sure how relevant the various controversies about control or misinformation are to a general audience, especially when they come to take up so much space & attention in the article. KenThomas (talk) 01:57, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]