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MSN Chat was the Microsoft Service Network version of the popular IRCX IRC extensions by Microsoft accessable with a Windows Live ID.

Closure

On August 31, 2006 Microsoft announced that MSN Chat would no longer be provided. On October 16, 2006 MSN Chat shut down their servers at about 11:30 a.m. EST. The service closed because MSN no longer deemed it profitable to run as a subscription service and the decision to close it was said to be based on this fact.

The official announcement MSN Chat employees gave out was:

"Following a significant decline in new users and looking at the chat room industry on a whole, Microsoft determined that discontinuing this service would allow us to focus on providing an even better online experience to the broadest set of Microsoft communication services customers."


Notable MSN Chat Features

  • Webchat Using MSN's Chat Control
  • Chat Nicknames
  • Profiles
  • Chatroom Creation
  • Emoticons
  • Different Chat Listings
  • User Created Rooms
  • MSN Created Rooms
  • MSN WebTV Chats
  • Celebrity Chats
  • Adult Chats, Moderate Content Chats, All Aged Chats
  • Integration with MSN Groups

Differences Between MSN Chat and IRC/IRCX

The major differences between the two services can be seen in the chart below:

MSN Chat Server

IRCX Server

IRC Server

Any IRC client can connect

Yes, see note 1

Yes

Yes

Security

Strong, see note 2

Strong

Some

Authentication

GateKeeperPassport

SASL authentication supported by protocol

Ident, Host Lookup

Note 1: Any client can connect if they answer the MSN Chat Server "challenge" questions correctly and are successfully authenticated.

Note 2: Unless a third-party application is used, the only way to connect to MSN Chat is through the MSN Chat website.

GateKeeper and GateKeeperPassport

GateKeeper and GateKeeperPassport are the only externally supported authentication methods for MSN Chat, and authentication is required. This information is stored in your .NET Passport (now Windows Live ID). These authentication methods are not publicly documented.

The difference between GateKeeper and GateKeeperPassport is that one is for registered users (GateKeeperPassport), and requires Passport credentials. The other (GateKeeper) is for unregistered users. GateKeeper authentication does not require any Passport credentials, but it does require your client to understand their challenge/response algorithm. By authenticating via the GateKeeper protocol, you will not be able to use your registered MSN Chat nickname and you will appear in the chat room as Guest_nickname (or as >nickname to IRC clients). Using GateKeeperPassport authentication enables you to use your registered MSN Chat nickname and allows users in the room to see your MSN Chat profile.

NTLM

The other authentication method supported for MSN Chat is NTLM. It is used for staff to connect to the network and authenticate as Operators, whatever their level may be. They use a client called "MSN Chat Admin Client," which is a modified version of the Microsoft Chat IRCX client. It uses NTLM to hash their username and password and authenticate with the server, therefore logging in as Operators.

Third Party Applications

While using the official MSN Chat Control is the only officially supported way to have chat access with MSN Chat, there are other software programs that allow you to connect to MSN's Chat Servers. By using one of these clients to connect to MSN Chat, you are violating their Code of Conduct and Terms of Use. Since MSN Chat was a subscription service and most of the software programs out there allow you to connect without a subscription, you would have found yourself banned by an Admin, Sysop, or Guide (explained below).

User levels

This section covers MSN Chat, IRCX and IRC.

MSN Chat

MSN Chat has the following user levels (the MSN Chat client shows icons for each level):

MSN Staff Levels:

  • Chat Administrator (Admin)
  • Chat Manager
  • Chat System Operator (Sysop)
  • Chat Guide (Guide)
  • Chat Host (Host)

MSN Member Levels:

  • Channel Owner
  • Channel Host
  • Channel Member
  • Channel Participant
  • Channel Spectator

IRCX

IRCX servers typically have the following user levels:

  • Chat Administrator
  • Chat Global Operator
  • Chat System Manager
  • Chat System Operator
  • Chat Local Operator
  • Chat Help Operator
  • Channel Owner
  • Channel Host
  • Channel Member
  • Channel Spectator

IRC

IRC servers typically have the following user levels:

  • Network Administrator
  • Global Operator
  • Local Operator
  • Channel Operator
  • Channel Voice
  • Channel Member

MSN Chat/IRCX Modes

Since MSN Chat used the IRCX protocol, MSN Chat and IRCX share the same basic modes (both channel and user).

Channel Modes

User Level

Chat Administrator Chat Manager Chat Sysop Chat Guide Channel Owner Channel Host Channel Member
+a (Staff only) Yes -- -- -- -- -- --
+b (Ban) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+d (Cloneable) Yes Yes Yes -- -- -- --
+e (Clone) Set by the server
-- -- -- -- -- -- --
+f (Profanity Filter) Yes Yes Yes Yes On creation only -- --
+g (Special Guest) MSN Only Yes Yes Yes -- -- -- --
+h (Hidden) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+i (Invite Only) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+k (Key Protected) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+l (User Limit) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+m (Moderated) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+n (No External Messages) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+o (Host) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+p (Private) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+q (Owner) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes -- --
+r (Registered) Behavior varies by server Yes -- -- -- -- -- --
+s (Secret) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+S (Subscriber) MSN Only Yes -- -- -- -- -- --
+t (Hosts Set Topic) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+u (Knock Notify) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+v (Voiced) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+w (No Whispers) Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+W (No Guest Whispers) MSN Only Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes --
+x (Auditorium) Behavior varies by server Yes Yes Yes -- -- -- --

MSN Chat Clones

There are countless chat networks which use MSN's Chat Control (MSNChatX.ocx). These chat sites are usually referred to as "MSN Chat Clones."

MSN Chat Clones are generally small time chat networks, which often rely on IRC servers, or cracked versions of the IRCX servers, and are operated out of private homes. These non-professional quality servers generally make for a bumpy chat experience. The non-professional clone sites tend to be filled with numerous bugs, significant site downtime, and server lag issues.

Many of the MSN Chat Clones started up directly after MSN moved into subscription chat, and additional networks have continued to spring up since then. There is speculation that these chat networks may have pulled potential subscribers away from MSN Chat, ultimately bringing on the demise of MSN Subscription Chat Services.


While the majority of MSN Clone Chat sites are free, most of them rely on Google ads to provide a small income. In addition, some of the clones have begun to charge, using the method of a forced donation, for a variety of services, such as registered rooms.

The use of the MSN Chat Control by these websites is illegal, although to date Microsoft have not filed charges. An investigation of the MSN Chat Clone sites is currently underway. To date, MSN has failed to adequately warn the public about this situation, and has not released a web based public notice regarding the clones. Despite this, the information can be verified by directly contacting MSN Support Services. The information is sent out by MSN Support Staff, to those who request it, via e-mail.

Pros and Cons of MSN Clones

Pros

Cons

  • Familiarity with the look and feel. Perhaps this is the reason they are most popular among MSN Chat alternatives.
  • Quality and performance of the MSN Chat Control. MSN Chat Control was developed by highly qualified professionals; it is less buggy, and performs better and as expected compared to other alternatives.
  • Trust of MSN Chat Control. MSN users trust to use MSN's Chat Control as they have used it when MSN Chat was in service. Furthermore, MSN is a well respected and professional organization, therefore, the MSN Chat Control signed by MSN would not contain any backdoor or virus.
  • Most of them are run from home and unprofessional. However, there are MSN Chat Clone networks that run from a data-center.
  • They can go out of commission if MSN issues a lawsuit for using their Chat Control.

Non-Clone MSN Style Chat Alternatives

In addition to the vast array of small time MSN Clone Chats, there are also a growing number of MSN Style, Non-Clone Chat Network Alternatives. These MSN Style, Non-Clone Alternatives provide chat experiences similar to the old MSN Chat, but the Non-Clone MSN Style Chat Alternatives use their own Chat Control, instead of using the MSN Chat Control.

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