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Battle for Dream Island (BFDI) is an animated web series on YouTube, created by the Huang brothers. With the series having at least 1 billion views, you might be surprised to learn that there is no Wikipedia article on it. This essay explains why those pages were deleted, along with its history. If you are new to Wikipedia, then this essay is for you. But if you are more experienced, you can also read this as a case study on some of Wikipedia's policies, like which articles are kept, the purpose of Wikipedia and what Wikipedia is not, and disruptive conduct.

One of the reasons BFDI articles are deleted is because there is a system that decides whether or not a topic should have an article. Being popular doesn't always mean an article about it should be made. What is important is whether BFDI has received a lot of coverage in reliable, independent sources, such as news articles. Without good sources, we wouldn't be able to make articles accurate and neutral.

Don't be mean to people for BFDI. The creators of BFDI even published a video titled "Let's keep BFDI casual" to remind viewers and fans to not take the series too seriously.

Background

Logos for the series
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The following is not intended to be reliable, encyclopedic information.

Battle for Dream Island (2010–present, abbreviated BFDI[a]) is an animated web series on YouTube created by jacknjellify, a channel owned by Cary and Michael Huang. The web series features anthropomorphic objects that compete in a series of contests for a prize. After each contest, viewers of this series can vote on which contestant would be eliminated in the next episode. The series inspired a genre of animated web series known as "object shows".

The creators of the series, Cary and Michael Huang, are best known for the interactive online visualization tool The Scale of the Universe, which has attracted coverage,[1][2][3] was featured on NASA's Astronomy Picture of the Day[4] and inspired the Kurzgesagt app "Universe in a Nutshell".[5][6] This led to the International Astronomical Union naming minor planet 10003 Caryhuang after Cary Huang.[3] However, keep in mind that this essay is about BFDI, not its creators.

SeasonEpisodesNameOriginally aired
First airedLast aired
125Batte for Dream IslandJanuary 1, 2010 (2010-01-01)January 2, 2012 (2012-01-02)
2TBABattle for Dream Island AgainJune 30, 2012 (2012-06-30)TBA (TBA)
3TBAdnalsI maerD roF elttaBSeptember 1, 2016 (2016-09-01)TBA (TBA)
430Battle for Battle for Dream Island
Battle for Battle for Battle for Dream Island
November 3, 2017 (2017-11-03)April 9, 2021 (2021-04-09)
5TBABattle for Dream Island: The Power of TwoJanuary 10, 2021 (2021-01-10)TBA (TBA)


You can watch the series using this playlist.

Policies and guidelines

Pages about BFDI were deleted for many reasons. Firstly, BFDI articles do not meet our criteria on whether we should have an article or not. Secondly, pages were being used as a webhost for content that is not related to Wikipedia. Lastly, many people have agreed to delete these types of pages.

Inclusion criteria and neutrality

Homestuck is a Flash webcomic series that garnered large media attention, allowing it to have its own Wikipedia article. (The green spirograph above is commonly present throughout the webcomic.) BFDI, however, is not meaningfully covered by reliable sources, disallowing it from inclusion.
Introduction

On Wikipedia, articles must have a neutral point of view. This is one of Wikipedia's fundamental five principles. Wikipedia's notability system is crafted around this concept. There should be enough sources for us to see what the significant points of view on a topic are. For example, if there is multiple reviews published about BFDI, we can talk about what the critics liked and what people thought of BFDI.

It is also important that the reviews/sources are reliable. Websites like Fandom, where anyone can post anything, are unreliable because you can abuse it. People who hate BFDI can just write negative reviews on the show, and its BFDI article would say "this show have been considered the worst by critics". Obviously, this would not be true. This is why sources need to be reliable. A reputable publication would see if the review came from a professional critic and if they are being honest.

However, there are no reliable articles or reviews talking about BFDI, and basing a Wikipedia article on unreliable sources is a bad idea since unreliable sources can be manipulated.

Specific criteria

On Wikipedia, the word notability is very different from how it is used by everybody else. Usually, notable is just another word for being important. However, on Wikipedia, when we say notable, we mean more like an article about the subject can be written such that it

  1. has a neutral point of view
  2. is verifiable with reliable sources
  3. gives detailed, encyclopedic coverage of the topic.

There have been many, many failed attempts to find sources which fit these criteria. Notability is an extension of Wikipedia's verifiability and neutrality policies. If no reliable sources can be found, then readers would have no reason to trust that the information within the article is correct and unbiased.

It is also important to notice the plural in reliable sources. In order to enforce a neutral point of view in articles, we need to discern the majority view on a topic. For example, flat earth is refuted by nearly all scholars and scientists, so we do not state it as fact. However, if there are only a few sources describing the topic, we have no idea what the majority view is, which means the article is unable to have a neutral point of view.

Common sources found in attempted BFDI articles are IMDb and Fandom citations. These websites are user-generated, meaning that anyone can change the information to their whim. Wikipedia holds articles to a much higher standard of reliability, where the facts are almost guaranteed to be correct, hence reliable. Other common sources are YouTube links to the web series itself. However, they do not contribute to notability because they are not independent from the subject. If sources are affiliated with the subject in hand, they may only highlight positive aspects of the subject and discard the rest, or they may even fabricate information to promote the subject. Since facts from articles can only be drawn from their sources, a lack of independent sources makes it difficult for an article about a subject to be unbiased.

A common misunderstanding is that notability exists purely to limit knowledge to only what is deemed "important". This is not true. Here is Wikipedia's founder on its purpose:

Our goal is to document knowledge in an organized fashion, no matter how mundane or important they are. If an unbiased, reliable article could be made about BFDI, we would have done that a long time ago.

To look at a similar case, let's examine SMG4, an Australian content creator dedicated to creating Machinima videos using Nintendo characters (e.g. Mario) as well as their original characters.[8] After extensive discussions and deletions primarily over notability, SMG4 has, by November 2023, become a redirect to Glitch Productions, an Australian-based animation company created by the creators of SMG4.[9] BFDI, however, does not have any articles or lists on Wikipedia that meaningfully dedicate a section to BFDI (see Special:Search/"Battle for Dream Island"). This means that unlike SMG4, a BFDI redirect cannot lead anywhere and thus cannot be created.

Reliability of specific sources

Wikipedia lists many well-known and/or commonly-used sources on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources and rate them based on their reliability as well as how they are being used by editors. Some well-known sources like NPR are ranked "generally reliable", while some like Urban Dictionary are "generally unreliable". Some sources are deemed so problematic by consensus (e.g. blatant disinformation) that restrictions are added, ranging from deprecation (usually via edit filter 869 (hist · log) and auto-revert) to blacklisting (via a spam blacklist). Spam blacklisting is different from title blacklisting.

As mentioned, YouTube, Fandom, and IMDb are some of the most common sources found in pages about BFDI. All three sources are considered "generally unreliable" because they are user-generated and are self-published sources. Generally speaking, Fandom and IMDb can be edited by anyone with an account, whether or not they are "experts" on the subject matter. This means that there is little to no quality oversight on the edits being performed. YouTube videos can be considered reliable sources if it is published by a reputable agency, such as channels owned by ABC News, or by a subject-matter expert, such as a renowned professor with a PhD. However, most videos and Fandom wikis (including the unofficial BFDI Fandom wiki) are neither of these.

In the context of BFDI on Wikipedia, BFDI videos published by jacknjellify are considered primary sources. These videos do provide insight on what BFDI is for those unfamiliar with the show; however, any interpretation made by Wikipedia editors (e.g. character development, canonicity of BFDI media, and "theories" about BFDI) has to be backed with a secondary source. Not doing so would violate the no original research policy. Not only that, videos from the creator are limited to the creator's perspective.

Even though your local restaurant may be popular, such popularity does not necessarily correlate with the amount of media coverage received by that place.

While a subject's popularity may suggest notability, it does not automatically guarantee notability in the sense that Wikipedia uses that word. Though the channel hosting BFDI has 2.07 million subscribers and over 1 billion views,[10][b] these numbers are not be-alls and end-alls for justifying the creation of a BFDI article on Wikipedia. Usually, when something is popular, many reliable sources report on the subject, making it notable. However, BFDI is an exception, with editors being unable to find any reliable sources that have reported on this show. BFDI's popularity can be seen through the existence of numerous Fandom pages,[11][12][13] but it cannot appear on Wikipedia without any indication of notability.

Drafts and user pages

Wikipedia has a type of pages called "drafts". They are used to develop new articles before being published as an actual article. It is then published and viewable on search engines. Since drafts and user pages are not usually found by casual readers, lack of notability and bad writing are not problems.

However, drafts on BFDI were often deleted through numerous miscellany for deletion discussions. This is because Wikipedia has no firm rules. These discussions found that those drafts had many bad edits, and used up editors' time. For example, one draft even got submitted for review and declined 13 times. Additionally, even if BFDI became notable, those drafts would have been very bad articles, so editors decided that it was not worth keeping BFDI drafts.

What Wikipedia is not

In order to compensate for the lack of critical reviews and analysis from reliable sources, many attempted BFDI articles often are plot-only summary of works. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Instead, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Entries only consisting of plot summaries are better suited for alternative wikis such as IMDb or Fandom. Remember that Wikipedia is for everyone, not just fans of a certain series, and that Wikipedia must abide by a neutral point of view–showing that people both like and dislike a certain piece of media.

Criteria for speedy deletion

Wikipedia has a system that allows administrators to perform uncontroversial deletions without any need for discussion. Editors will usually delete new BFDI articles under the criteria Unauthorized recreations (G4). In the past, Having no indication for the article's significance (A7) was also used, though the series now definitely shows a claim of significance.

Disruptive editing

Disruptive editing, or the abuse of editing privileges, is not allowed. In the case of BFDI, many editors have decided on a consensus that articles about BFDI do not belong on Wikipedia. However, as demonstrated in the list below, the pages have been re-created against consensus several times; this is considered disruptive and wastes editors' time.

As a result of tendentious recreations, pages that include in their title any variation of "Battle for Dream Island" or "BFDI" are blocked from recreation in a technical level (i.e. creation protection and TitleBlacklist). Do not create pages with lookalike characters to bypass this restriction.

Vandalism

Not all contributions are appreciated.

In the context of Wikipedia in general, vandalism is the act of deliberately disrupting Wikipedia pages, such as trolling, spamming, and blanking an entire article, especially when trying to emphasize a point or promote a concept like BFDI.

Existing articles that bear a resemblance to anything related to BFDI (titles, characters, settings, etc.) are subject to vandalism. The Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information (BfDI, German: Bundesbeauftragter für den Datenschutz und die Informationsfreiheit), a government agency in Germany that deals with data privacy and freedom of information, was hit with occasional vandalism because its initialism merely resembles BFDI's (the web series) initialism. Similarly, Dream Island, an actual island off the coast of Antarctica, was also vandalized because a fictional place in BFDI has the same name. These acts of vandalism were often from unregistered or newly registered users who were at least somewhat familiar with BFDI.

Hoaxes

Other problems with having BFDI articles on Wikipedia were the inclusion of fanon content, or content created by fans not connected to the actual series, and hoax claims such as supposed films and production companies surrounding the series (e.g. Draft:The BFDI Movie and Draft:Yellow Face Ate My M&M's). Please do not create hoaxes on Wikipedia. Creating hoaxes on Wikipedia is a serious violation of Wikipedia’s policy on verifiability that negatively affects both Wikipedia’s reputation and your personal reputation. A hoax is basically disinformation, or false information deliberately spread to deceive people.

Adding hoaxes to Wikipedia is also a less obvious form of vandalism. If disinformation like false claims of a BFDI movie were spread on Wikipedia without getting removed, this could result in real-world errors and consequences, like books citing Wikipedia having to be reprinted, public embarrassment surrounding BFDI, and lost points on school assignments. The addition of hoaxes and fanon content also contravenes the purpose of Wikipedia–Wikipedia is a verifiable encyclopedia, not a crystal ball for fanon content and speculation. Wikipedia is not a webhost site like Fandom, so please do not add your fictional ideas here. Remember that you are here to build the encyclopedia that is Wikipedia.

As per Wikipedia’s policies, all information must be verified with a reliable secondary source. It is unlikely for a reliable source to promote hoax claims when the general public does not believe the hoax.

Gaming the system

On Wikipedia, "gaming the system" is the act of using the rules against their intended purpose to pursue unsolicited disruptions, such as circumvention of rules. Wikipedia is not a government where the rules are written in such a way that unintended consequences are allowed to occur. Likewise, Wikipedia is not a courtroom to discuss the wording of the rules. Instead, Wikipedia is governed by policies and guidelines with the pursuit of constructive contributions in mind. Additionally, if multiple articles with subtly different names or in different namespaces exist (especially if they are also indexed in search engines like Google or Bing), it would be hard to know which article is the actual one intended for the topic.

In the case of BFDI on Wikipedia, there is strong consensus against (re)creating articles about BFDI, leading to creation protection and TitleBlacklist. However, these protections only block the creation of the exact title (case sensitivity included). Due to their limited scope, there were attempts made by editors to go against consensus and use name and spelling variations of the web series. Some of the variations beside Battle for Dream Island include Battle For Dream Island, Battle for dream island, Battle for BFDI, and Jacknjellify.

Using user pages

As per this menu, spamming is generally not welcome. Don't add BFDI onto Wikipedia solely for the purpose of promotion.

While editors are permitted to store drafts in their userspace with the possibility of becoming actual articles, editors may not use their userspace to indefinitely host pages that look like articles. These are often indexed on search engines and make Wikipedia look more like a webhost, which it is not. Wikipedia is a formal encyclopedia, not a dumping ground for trivial topics.

User pages are for collaboration and communication, with the ultimate purpose of maintaining one as part of a Wikipedia editor's efforts to build an encyclopedia. Therefore, user pages cannot have "fake articles" about topics that are not suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia, such as BFDI.

This section is not a substitute for advice from legal experts.

You might have learned in school that you may not pass off any work of others as your own (e.g. not crediting the original author of the work). This is the basic definition of plagiarism. Plagiarism is not only frowned upon, but is also a cause for punitive measures, from reputational damage to being civilly and/or criminally liable for fraud and copyright infringement. It should be noted, however, that although there are numerous overlaps between plagiarism and copyright infringement, they are not exactly the same. For instance, you may freely use works that are not copyrighted (i.e. in the public domain), but you may not plagiarize these works.

Copyright infringement is the act of using others' copyrighted work without permission. This includes, but is not limited to, republishing your favorite social media influencer's videos (including screenshots), music, and lyrics. In the case of Wikipedia, obvious copyright-infringing content is deleted on sight, as well as revisions that contain copyrighted content (see Wikipedia:Revision deletion). Yes, there is a fair use doctrine (or other equivalence like fair dealing) embedded in copyright laws, but Wikipedia does not accept fair-use media in most circumstances as per the non-free content policy and guideline.

Plagiarism and copyright violations are not very prevalent in the case of BFDI on Wikipedia, but some editors occasionally engage in such behavior. One example involves a handful of editors copying materials from Fandom and publishing them on Wikipedia. This behavior becomes very obvious when there is a sea of nonexistent articles and templates that almost nobody made. "{{Spoiler}}" is an actual template that is usable on Fandom, but not on Wikipedia (see Wikipedia:Spoiler for more information).

Uploading copyrighted content onto Wikipedia with no non-free use rationale and Wikimedia Commons is considered copyright infringement and is thus prohibited, as seen on File:Bfdi.jpeg.

Will an article on BFDI ever exist?

An article about BFDI is unlikely to exist in the near future, and attempts to create one now are simply too soon. If you can demonstratively prove that there is now significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of BFDI, then you are free to start a deletion review with new evidence and rationale included.

What can I do instead?

Feel free to contact your favorite reliable news/review site to cover BFDI. Some suggestions: keep your message brief, explain why you like it, what sets it apart from alternatives, and mention the attraction the series has garnered. Those are some indicators of the existence of a substantial fan base, which can be a factor in their decision on whether or not to cover it. Always stay polite, and if the answer is no, move on.

History

Overview

The first known attempt to create an article about BFDI occurred in December 2010, of which it was speedy deleted on the grounds of lacking indications of significance. Users have recreated the article multiple times, which ended up being speedy deleted repeatedly for the same reason. Different name variations on the same topic have been attempted, including pages with the name "Battle for BFDI" and "Jacknjellify". Users have also created draft pages about the web series, such as "Draft:Battle for Dream Island" and "Draft:Battle for BFDI". Articles, lists, and disambiguation pages like Dream Island and Ruby (given name) are subject to vandalism due to their page names being similar to the settings and characters from BFDI.

BFDI became increasingly popular by the late 2010s, especially with the release of the fourth season of the series (Battle for BFDI) in 2017. This led to pages on BFDI being recreated, deleted, and salted more frequently. Users nominated deletions on such pages, of which there were consensus to have most of the pages deleted and some salted indefinitely. In 2022, administrator Timwi was warned after restoring the Battle for Dream Island article. In the same year, a deletion review occured due to high amounts of recreations on pages related to BFDI. In September 2020, the term "Battle for Dream Island" was placed under TitleBlacklist in an attempt to curb recreations. In February 2023, "Battle for BFB", "Cary Huang", and "Michael Huang" became blacklisted as well.

Affected articles

Certain pre-existing articles have often been targets of BFDI-related editing. In the summer of 2023, information about BFDI was added to the Federal Commissioner for Data Protection and Freedom of Information (abbreviated BfDI), then reverted, then readded, then reverted again, then readded again, and then reverted again. Later that summer, the page was hijacked to be about BFDI, then reverted, then hijacked again, and then reverted again; the two edits were copy-pasted from this Fandom page. As said above, the disambiguation pages Dream Island (disambiguation) and BFB have faced similar vandalism, where editors have added non-article entries into a disambiguation page. Per Wikipedia:Disambiguation, these organizational pages should not have non-article entries in them. The article Dream Island is also a frequent target for unhelpful additions. Editors who wish to help should place these pages into their watchlist.

List of deletion nominations

Date of nomination
(UTC)
Target page Venue Result Link
15 March 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island Miscellany Delete link
27 April 2019 [c] Miscellany Delete link
21 September 2020 File:BFDI Recommended characters.png Files Delete link
2 February 2021 [d] Miscellany Delete link
29 June 2021 Draft:Battle for BFB Miscellany Keep link
30 June 2021 Draft:Battle for BFDI Miscellany Redirect link
10 November 2021 Draft:Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two Miscellany Keep link
30 January 2022 Battle for Dream Island Articles Delete and salt link
17 February 2022 Jacknjellify Articles Delete and salt link
27 May 2022 BFDI (Franchise) Articles Speedy delete link
28 October 2022 Firey Articles Delete link
20 November 2022 Niall Burns Articles Delete link
7 February 2023 Draft:Battle for BFB Miscellany Speedy delete link
8 February 2023 User:KirbyOlimar/sandbox Miscellany Speedy delete and salt link
8 February 2023 User:Ericallums2007/sandbox Miscellany Speedy delete and salt link
8 February 2023 User:Ericallums15tetert/sandbox Miscellany Speedy delete link
8 February 2023 Draft:Cary and Michael Huang Miscellany Speedy delete link
8 February 2023 Draft:Object show Miscellany Speedy delete and salt link
19 February 2023 Draft:Inanimate Insanity Miscellany Keep link
20 February 2023 Draft:Carykh Miscellany Speedy delete link
6 June 2023 Wikipedia:Battle for a Carl Plush Miscellany Delete link

List of publicly logged deletions

Date of deletion
(UTC)
Target page
(case-sensitive)
Rationale Link
5 December 2010 Battle for dream island A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
19 February 2011 Battle for Dream Island A1: Not enough context to identify article's subject (CSDH) link
30 May 2011 Battle for dream island A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content): G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion link
16 May 2012 Battle for dream island A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content) link
26 May 2013 Battle for Dream Island A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
9 August 2013 Object Show A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
13 August 2013 Battle for dream island A7: Article about an eligible subject, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
27 November 2013 Battle For Dream Island A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) link
20 January 2014 Battle For Dream Island A7: No indication that the article may meet the guidelines for inclusion (CSDH) link
31 July 2014 Bfdi A7: Article about a company, corporation or organization, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
8 October 2014 Object Show A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
5 January 2015 Battle For Dream Island A7: No indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) link
5 January 2015 Battle For Dream Island A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (web content) (TW) link
13 March 2015 Battle for Dream Island:) Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A1, G1) link
14 March 2015 Battle for Dream Island:) Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A1, G1) link
1 June 2015 BFDI Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criteria A7, G11, G5 link
5 May 2016 Draft:Battle for Dream Island G 13 (TW) link
1 July 2016 BFDI G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page link
4 March 2017 The Object Show Movie A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) link
8 May 2017 Battle For Dream Island G2: Test page (CSDH) link
8 February 2018 Carykh G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND link
3 March 2018 Battle for BFDI A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
12 March 2018 Battle For Dream Island (series) R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace link
20 March 2018 Draft:Battle for Dream Island G8: Redirect to a deleted or non-existent page link
21 March 2018 File:BFDI Logo.jpg F4: File without a source (TW) link
21 March 2018 Object Show Marker G2: Test page: A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article link
26 March 2018 Battle for Dream Island (TV series) A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) link
9 April 2018 Battle For Dream Island (series) R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace link
9 April 2018 Draft:BFDI G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
10 April 2018 Jacknjellify A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
5 May 2018 List of Battle for Dream Island characters R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace link
29 May 2018 Battle for BFDI G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible link
27 August 2018 Draft:Carykh G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) link
3 September 2018 Draft:Battle for Dream Island Again G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) link
20 September 2018 Draft:Marker (Battle for Dream Island character) G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 link
14 October 2018 Draft:Battle for Dream Island(BFDI) G2: Test page link
16 October 2018 Draft:Battle For Dream Island (series) G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) link
6 November 2018 Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 link
7 November 2018 Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters G3: Vandalism link
7 November 2018 Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island characters G3: Vandalism link
7 November 2018 Draft:Battle For Dream Island G3: Vandalism link
17 March 2019 Draft:Object Shows TW link
23 March 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
6 April 2019 Draft:Battle For Dream island G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, make your request here (TW) link
24 April 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island Duplicate of Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) and appears to be a recreation of previously deleted material link
27 April 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
4 May 2019 [c] Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) (XFDcloser)
21 July 2019 Battle for Dream Island (TV series) Mass deletion of pages added by Roblox332 per g5 link
21 July 2019 Draft:List of Battle for B.F.D.I. episodes Mass deletion of pages added by Roblox332 per g5 link
29 July 2019 Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Repeatedly recreated article, has been to afd as well see Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) and Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
7 August 2019 Draft:Object Show Fanonpedia G13: Abandoned draft or Articles for Creation submission – to retrieve it, see WP:REFUND/G13 link
22 October 2019 Draft:Firey (BFDI) Mass deletion of pages added by BFBFan321093 per G5 link
26 October 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
26 October 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island/Elimination Table G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
26 October 2019 Draft:Battle For Dream Island G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
26 October 2019 Draft:Battle For Dream Island (series) G8: Broken redirect to Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series). If this bot is malfunctioning, please report it at User:AnomieBOT III/shutoff/BrokenRedirectDeleter link
13 November 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island (series) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
13 November 2019 Draft:List of Battle for Dream Island episodes G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
13 November 2019 Draft:Battle for Dream Island. G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
3 December 2019 File:BFDI Logo.png Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use link
30 December 2019 File:BFDI Cast.png Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use link
12 February 2020 File:Bfdi Cast Logo.png Expired PROD, concern was: unused, low-res, no obvious use (TW) link
10 May 2020 Draft:Battle for Dream Island (BFDI) G6: Housekeeping and routine (non-controversial) cleanup link
10 May 2020 Draft:BFDI (disambiguation) G14: Unnecessary disambiguation page link
6 June 2020 Draft:Battle for dream island G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, WP:XFD link
12 June 2020 Draft:BFDIA: The Movie G3: Blatant hoax link
4 July 2020 Cary Huang G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: A7: Article about a real person, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
24 August 2020 Draft:Bfdi G3: Vandalism link
16 September 2020 Draft:Battle for dream island G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
16 September 2020 Draft:Battle For Dream Island G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
16 September 2020 Draft:Battle For Dream Island (season 1) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
16 September 2020 Draft:Battle for Dream Island (TV series) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
16 September 2020 Draft:BFDI G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
16 September 2020 Draft:Object Show G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
6 November 2020 B.F.D.I. A7: Article about a web site, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject (CSDH) link
28 September 2020 File:BFDI Recommended characters.png Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2020 September 21#File:BFDI Recommended characters.png link
28 November 2020 Draft:Jacknjellify G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
28 November 2020 Draft:Some Stoopid Voting G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
12 February 2021 [d] Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Luz Nazario Velez
19 February 2021 Draft:BFDI (Web Series) G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion link
26 February 2021 Draft:BFDI (Web Series) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
2 March 2021 Battle For B.F.D.I. A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
5 March 2021 Draft:BFDI G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
9 March 2021 Draft:BFDI (Franchise) G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion link
12 March 2021 Draft:Jacknjellify G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion link
5 May 2021 Battle fo Dream Island (Series) A7: No credible indication of importance (individuals, animals, organizations, web content, events) link
16 May 2021 Draft:BFDI (Franchise) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island link
25 June 2021 BFDI (web series) A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
21 July 2021 BFDI G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: more at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI), Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for Dream Island, and quite a few fan-army user talk pages link
27 July 2021 BFDI A1: Very short article lacking sufficient context to identify subject of article link
29 September 2021 Draft:Object Show (Genre) G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
29 January 2022 File:Battle for Dream Island logo.webp There’s already File:BFDI_LogoHQ.png link
1 February 2022 Battle for Dream Island Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island (XFDcloser) link
1 February 2022 Draft:List of Battle for BFB episodes (Used in the other draft) G5: Creation by a blocked or banned user in violation of block or ban link
1 February 2022 Draft:List of Battle for BFDI episodes G3: Vandalism link
1 February 2022 Draft:List of Battle for BFDI episodes G3: Vandalism link
1 February 2022 Draft:Jacknjellify Productions G3: Blatant hoax link
12 February 2022 BFDI G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
24 February 2022 Jacknjellify Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify (XFDcloser) link
24 February 2022 Draft:Jacknjellify (YouTube) G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify closed as delete (XFDcloser) link
18 March 2022 Draft:Cary and Michael Huang G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
18 March 2022 Draft:Michael Huang G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
25 March 2022 Draft:Object show G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion: G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI) link
25 March 2022 Draft:Object Shows G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
25 March 2022 Draft:Object shows G8: Redirect to a deleted or nonexistent page link
27 May 2022 BFDI (Franchise) G12: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Battle_for_Dream_Island link
27 May 2022 Jacknjellify A7: Article about a website, blog, web forum, webcomic, podcast, browser game, or similar web content, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject link
27 May 2022 Jacknjellify G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacknjellify link
27 May 2022 BFDI (Franchise) G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Battle for Dream Island link
4 July 2022 Draft:Object Show Multiple reasons: speedy deletion criterion G4 link
26 August 2022 Draft:List of BFDIA episodes G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 link
11 September 2022 Cary and Michael Huang R2: Cross-namespace redirect from mainspace link
14 November 2022 Draft:List of object shows by episode count G13: Abandoned draft or AfC submission – If you wish to retrieve it, please see WP:REFUND/G13 link
11 February 2023 Draft:Battle for BFB Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Battle for BFB: The Power of Two G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Battle for BFDI G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:List of BFDI:TPOT episodes G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Battle for BFB (2nd nomination) closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Cary and Michael Huang Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Cary and Michael Huang (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Object show Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Object Shows G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) link
11 February 2023 Draft:Object shows G8 (redirect): Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show closed as speedy delete (XFDcloser) link
20 February 2023 Draft:Carykh Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Carykh (XFDcloser) link
23 March 2023 File:Bfdi.jpeg Deleted old revision 20230323132452!Bfdi.jpeg: F9: Unambiguous copyright violation link
30 March 2023 File:Bfdi.jpeg F4: Lack of licensing information link
10 April 2023 Draft:Battle for BFDI G2: Test Page link
8 June 2023 Draft:Object Shows BFDI spam Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show link
15 June 2023 Draft:Object shows G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:Object show link
1 August 2023 Draft:Object Shows G5: Created by a banned or blocked user (BFDI spam) in violation of ban or block link
2 August 2023 Draft:Object Shows G2: Test page link
9 September 2023 Draft:Goiky G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible. Also note Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Luz Nazario Velez link

Conclusion

While mainspace articles are subject to notability guidelines where significant and reliable secondary sources are required to stay up, drafts and user pages are not subject to such rules. However, these pages, along with other namespaces, are still subject to some other sets of rules (e.g. what Wikipedia is not). Although such scenario is rare, drafts can be subject to deletion by MfD. In order for a draft to become a proper article and not get declined, deleted, or salted, it should primarily use plenty of reliable sources, not YouTube, Fandom, self-published sources, etc.

Meanwhile, there are a myriad of alternate outlets for information about BFDI, where you can contribute. For example:

See also

Notes

  1. ^ Also went by different names per season:
    1. Battle for Dream Island (BFDI)
    2. Battle for Dream Island Again (BFDIA)
    3. dnalsI maerD roF elttaB (a.k.a Island Dream for Battle) (IDFB)
    4. Battle for BFDI (BFB)
    5. Battle for Dream Island: The Power of Two (BFDI:TPOT or TPOT)
  2. ^ As of 31 December 2023
  3. ^ a b
    • Draft:Battle For Dream Island (BFDI)
    • Draft:Battle For Dream Island: The Movie
    • Draft:Battle for B.F.D.I.
    • Draft:Cary Huang
    • Draft:Four (BFB)
    • Draft:Jacknjellify
    • Draft:Object Show
    • User:Citationcreationstandingovation/sandbox
    • User:Hjjarrett
    • User:BFDIFanMovies/sandbox
    • User:LucasNeon51/sandbox
    • User:ChanKwanYuMoses1/sandbox
    • User:Dannytrinh1806/sandbox
    • User:Bfdiman/sandbox
    • User:Goodatmath12/sandbox
    • User:Chaseyboy428
    • User:ChileMedel
  4. ^ a b
    • Draft:Windows Vista (2021 film)
    • Draft:Yellow Face Ate My M&M's
    • Draft:The BFDI Movie
    • Draft:Object Stuff: The Movie
    • Draft:Object Stuff

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