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"New" rank insignia
[edit]@Swapnil1101: I'm wondering where you are getting the information from that the images you have placed are "new" insignia?
- Yours is based on old png images from 2009. Not exactly new.
- Images from as recent as 2018 and current official images show the former ranks are still used.
Best Skjoldbro (talk) 08:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: New Means SVG Version.
- Ranks Insignia of IAF has not changed Since 1990.
- SVG is based on images posted on Official website of Central Airmen Selection Board of IAF https://airmenselection.cdac.in/CASB/rankstructure.html
- Regards Swapnil1101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101:, but according to multiple images, the elongated ranks aren't actually used. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:00, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: but according to this image sergeant rank has Eagle patch. Swapnil1101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101: yes, but that is independent of that rank itself, just like this image, shows only a small square use as the rank insignia rather than a large rectangle, like for officers. I just don't why there is a need for changing the images, when they are sourced and accurate to to real life examples. Skjoldbro (talk) 19:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: actually officers ranks are also square, both in old uniform and new uniform. here is sqaure patch of Wing commander , i don't see difference between square patch of Enlisted - MWO and Officer - Sqn Ldr. Swapnil101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101: Then maybe all officers should also be corrected. In any case, sergeants and below don't use shoulder boards, so there is no reason to use images which show that. Skjoldbro (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: changing officer ranks will look bad bcz for pilot officer you have to use Line and for Chief Marshal you have to use Rectangle. See New Zealand air force. Their sergeants also wear rank on arms not on shoulder. Should we change them? using line, square, triangle, rectangle will look un-uniform. We are here using representation rank not actual images how they wear. lets follow how official website represnts ranks. Swapnil101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101: We probably should change it if it was wrong. However, it.. isn't. It is also customary on wiki to use sleeve insignia where used. Additionally, the "official website" has two problems. 1) The ranks are so compressed that they are almost square. Which means the new images are inaccurate. 2) The MWO insignia is incorrect. These images are clearly WP:CIRCULAR from the old image. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:34, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: i don't see difference between patch of MWO and Sqn Ldr/ Wg. Cdr. as all of them are wore on shoulder and are part of rectangle. lets keep MWO, WO and JWO as shoulder strap like officers have, and revert Sergeant, Corporal, Leading aircraftman and Aircraftman as to previous svg as they wear it on arms. but what should we place for aircraftman, except eagle he has nothing ? Here is one more JWO vs Grp. Cpt. Swapnil101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101: We probably should change it if it was wrong. However, it.. isn't. It is also customary on wiki to use sleeve insignia where used. Additionally, the "official website" has two problems. 1) The ranks are so compressed that they are almost square. Which means the new images are inaccurate. 2) The MWO insignia is incorrect. These images are clearly WP:CIRCULAR from the old image. Skjoldbro (talk) 12:34, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: changing officer ranks will look bad bcz for pilot officer you have to use Line and for Chief Marshal you have to use Rectangle. See New Zealand air force. Their sergeants also wear rank on arms not on shoulder. Should we change them? using line, square, triangle, rectangle will look un-uniform. We are here using representation rank not actual images how they wear. lets follow how official website represnts ranks. Swapnil101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101: Then maybe all officers should also be corrected. In any case, sergeants and below don't use shoulder boards, so there is no reason to use images which show that. Skjoldbro (talk) 11:47, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Skjoldbro: actually officers ranks are also square, both in old uniform and new uniform. here is sqaure patch of Wing commander , i don't see difference between square patch of Enlisted - MWO and Officer - Sqn Ldr. Swapnil101 (talk)
- @Swapnil1101: yes, but that is independent of that rank itself, just like this image, shows only a small square use as the rank insignia rather than a large rectangle, like for officers. I just don't why there is a need for changing the images, when they are sourced and accurate to to real life examples. Skjoldbro (talk) 19:42, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
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