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NPOV

This article appears slanted in the "Murder theory" presentation. The source Who Killed Kurt Cobain? The Mysterious Death of an Icon by Wallace Halperin is the lone source for much of it. Does anybody know if it's reliable? – Muboshgu (talk) 03:58, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

I haven't checked the credibility of the books you mentioned so I don't know about them but the Soaked in Bleach contents are surely reliable since it contains interviews, analyses & reviews of specialists, researchers, experts, and eyewitnesses. Bionic (talk) 18:04, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Surely! I'm not so sure. This film details the events... as seen through the perspective of Tom Grant. Not an editor or journalist, but Tom Grant. This film, a docudrama, features dramatized re-enactments. From, we know, the perspective of Tom Grant. Not a typical source here. Mcfnord (talk) 21:28, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Accused counter-claim

Nearly all claims in this article that the subject was murdered support the view that the subject's wife was the perpetrator. We quote a homocide detective who explicitly refutes the Grant thesis, but we don't have a citation. The article gives 3x the space to these discredited views vs. coverage of the death. That's probably a WP:UNDUE violation, but folk theories presenting alternative explanations of famous deaths aren't uncommon on Wikipedia (see folk theories claiming Suge Knight murdered Biggie and Tupac). We are not saying the claim in Wikivoice, but we are presenting it with incredible detail. Where that happens in coverage, the accused can speak. And Ms. Love has spoken clearly: Love says the claims are intended to distract from the fact that the CIA had been tracking Kurt Cobain for many years, and it was the stress of the CIA tracking the Nirvana front-man that led Kurt to committing suicide. The police don't think Love killed Cobain, but Grant clearly does, and we cover his claims in great detail. If a homicide investigator explicitly rejects an explanation, then it did not stand up to scrutiny of an NPOV-primary source. Some theory. So, where should we put the counter-claim by Love? 90% of the "evidence" implicates Love, so does she speak in the introduction to these folk theories? That seems like the only practical place to cover her counter-claims. Mcfnord (talk) 01:54, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

In a section accusing her of murder, she now addresses these accusations. Mcfnord (talk) 03:36, 1 August 2020 (UTC)