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German-Irish?

I removed this from the article for further discussion here.

German-Britons and German-Americans generally accepted what was beyond their control, to willingly join up in the next war against Austrian Germany under the Nazi Party. There are however remaining today from this, minor remnants of Neo-Nazi outbursts amongst a small minority of Germanic citizens. Most of the hostility has been taken on by other peoples, who have adopted the Nazi cause for themselves in an unrelated fashion from the imperialist antagonisms that ruled both world wars. A socioethnic solution to loyal German frustrations in being largely stigmatised and seen as foreign, had to be deduced. The ideal was a combination of German and Irish relationships to recreate and supplement the WASP Anglo-Saxon/Celtic fusion so successful in both the UK/US ascendencies, which has today resulted in much of the population in America now having a dual heritage of German/Irish. This was also intended to solve some tensions in Northern Ireland, since Irish Americans were funding the Irish Republican Army.

Where is the evidence of a widespread socio-economic eugenics project combining Germans and Irishmen? Am I miss reading this section? Rmhermen 16:05, Jun 15, 2005 (UTC)

That was the Anglosphere's idea of racial superiority in those days. Of course, it's not felt much these days unless by witnessing neo-nazi groups talk. It's bad press for the Anglo-Americans, who fought Nazis over world power. ScapegoatVandal 16:10, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
...And must you stalk my edits so closely? What interests you to do this? ScapegoatVandal 16:12, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I don't think the war on terror stuff is quite right. It is saying that government support for X is the same as the citizens' support for X. Blair and Bush are allies - Blair is a very strong atlanticist. The war in iraq was (and still is) extremely controversial in the UK. Secretlondon 16:53, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


I've just removed the following para because it's rubbish:-

Anglo-American relations were definitively shared in the antebellum sinking of the RMS Titanic, which served to steer support in reversal of an earlier United States isolationism. German Americans were originally confirmed in loyalty to the Anglo-American cause as a result of the Germanic British Royal Family and their service in the American Civil War, but became suspected traitors in defection for Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany once the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha changed into the House of Windsor. Irish Americans were seen as frequently drunken troublemakers and their coordination with relatives during the Easter Rising caused a return to Anti-Catholicism with the initially successful introduction of Prohibition.
Firstly I think they mean the Lusitania rather than the Titanic, secondly I don't understand what the British Royal family changing their surname has to do with the loyaly or otherwise of German-Americans and thirdly WTF has prohibition got to do with it? Jooler 01:32, 18 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Irish Americans were seen as frequently drunken troublemakers and their coordination with relatives during the Easter Rising caused a return to Anti-Catholicism with the initially successful introduction of Prohibition.

This is one of the most hillarious statements I have read this week. I'm pretty sure the Americans let the Fenian Brotherhood attack Canada via Buffalo. So years later when there is a rebellion in Ireland, there would be a return to Anti-Catholicism in the US?? Hahaha really funny! (But seriously... isn't the user that put up that para a vandal? Superdude99 15:12, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I've attempted to increase the number of links to other more specific Wikipedia articles in the diplomatic history section. I've also removed the references to the influence of the 'Auld Alliance' on the war of 1812, and the influence of the 'Forty-Eighters' on the British attitude to the Civil War. Anecdota


The sentence

Despite this close wartime co-operation, the US also took the opportunity during and after the war to break the remaining economic power of the British Empire - see Economic history of the United Kingdom

has been removed because the linked-to article does not support the assertion being made. The idea seems to be that ending lend-lease when the war was over and getting the British to agree that the pound would be convertible are 'break(ing) the remaining economic power of the British Empire', which is questionable, to say the least.


NPOV

the phrase in the culture section that reads "British tastes are often more cerebral and refined than American" is completely not NPOV.--Billiot 08:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

      - You say that, but come to Britain for a week and see it for yourself...
      - Okay, I did. They're just as bad.
      - Assert, assert, assert. The USA is more powerful, richer, bigger and influential than the UK. Can't we just leave Britain alone now? The Revolutionary War is over. Besides, they are better than us on a couple of points, surely? SAS is superior to Delta Force, and they don't have a death penalty or 'no loitering' signs, etc.

This title is linguistically artifical - there is no reson to do this as Anglo-American relations is the generally used and accepted term! 68.215.98.162 00:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]