Talk:Nikki Fernandez

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I didn't think it was too soon to make it, being that the character is a regular, but I suppose a deletion would make sense being that she and Paulo had absolutely NOTHING in the episode at all. Hopefully there will be an ABC promo up tomorrow that can be put as a picture. Jwebby91 03:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

w00t! Since Shannon died there's been a definite loss in the sex factor for the show... hopefully this blonde bombshell will turn up the heat in episodes to come ^_^ SilverNightFire 12:57, 22 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Main character?

Should Nikki and Paulo still be considered main characters? They've been pretty much written out of the show. Looks like the writers didn't like the critical backlash against them. 64.81.81.116 07:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are in the main credits at the start of every episode and 3x14 is their flashback episode so they are main characters by Wikipedia standards. (They are returing in Tricia Tanaka is Dead.) --thedemonhog 02:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Still guest stars as of 3x14

According to ABCmedianet.com as of episode 14 Nikki and Paulo are still guest stars.

Since this is their FLASHBACK episode, I don't think they should be counted as main characters. User:Gothicfrog

They are in the main credits on-screen. --thedemonhog talk contributions 04:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If Rose and Bernard are supporting characters, so are Nikki and Paulo. 63.215.28.84 12:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. Aristoi 16:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

They are on the main poster, they are listed at the titular credits along with Matthew Fox, etc. They are considered main characters. Depressed Marvin 01:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't care where their names are listed, a main character is somebody who has a major impact on the story. Remember Nikki's comment to Zukerman about guest characters getting killed? The writers are basically admitting she's not a main character and never was. 63.215.28.84 17:25, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No, a main character is someone who is featured along with the main cast. She isn't credited with the guest stars, but with the main stars. That's more proof than an interpretation of a quote from the series. Depressed Marvin 01:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I reject your definition. It's convenient, but it doesn't make sense. A main character should be defined in terms of the story, not the glory the actor receives. 63.215.29.15 18:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You may reject the definition, but that is enough qualification to make them a main character. It is the only clear cut definition as of yet and that is why it stands. Other guest stars who end up becoming main characters are commonly moved to the main cast and given a proper credit (i.e. The Janitor on Scrubs). She is credited along with the main cast and therefore she IS a main character under the prevailing definition. Until there is a widespread change or a clearly defined change in Wikipedia policy as to what a main character is, that is the definition that will continue to be used. Diemunkiesdie 22:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I should add (something I didn't know) that according to ABC they are guest stars, and as such, under our definition and Wikipedia policy (to use documented sources) they are not main characters. As above I was incorrect to say she was a main character, but for future conversations I stand by the definition that if they are in the main credits and not listed as guest stars, they are main characters. If there is documentation from the network, producers, etc. that they are in the main credits but are not main characters, then and only then, can they be removed from a main character list. Diemunkiesdie 22:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If the Wikipedia policy defines Nikki as a main character, that policy needs to be re-evaluated, because it doesn't make sense. Nikki has had less impact on the story than Rose; therefore, if Rose is a supporting character, Nikki cannot be a main character. Kiele Sanchez may be one of the main actors, but Nikki Fernandez is not one of the main characters. 63.215.29.15 01:09, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the policy that should be re-evaluated, it's the people who make the credits for LOST. They credit Nikki and Paulo as main characters, but not Rose and Bernard. They were intended for a bigger part, and therefore were added to the main cast. Your argument collapses on itself. Whatever your opinion or level of understanding is does not affect anything. -Depressed Marvin

Nonsense. You practically make my point for me: they were intended for a bigger part, but they didn't get it. The Wikipedia should reflect what really happened, not what the creators intended to happen. And what really happened is that Nikki and Paulo failed to become main characters. 63.215.29.15 23:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm convinced my position makes more sense, but I think it's time to put this to a vote. I've posted a message on the Talk page for the upcoming episode. If I lose or nobody cares enough to respond, I'll drop it; if I win, I'll request we move forward with making the change. The question is: Should Nikki and Paulo be listed as main characters or supporting characters? I say supporting. (I'm guessing most people will fail to see my logic and I'll be out-voted, but we'll see.) 63.215.28.84 02:31, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nikki and Paulo were listed as main characters in the opening credits, therefore they are main characters. Or at least, they were main characters for over half a season. We should go by the conventional, consensual definition (i.e., being listed in the opening credits), not by subjective preference. Aridd 15:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

All right, it's been a day and a half, I declare the polls to be closed; no need to drag this out. (Completely different IP address today, but it's still me. You'll have to take my word for it.) The result is a tie: 1-1. Which means I'm one vote away from winning, one vote away from losing, and one vote away from realizing that nobody cares but me. Net results: 1 vote for making the change, 2 votes for shutting the hell up. And that's a wrap. 209.247.5.49 21:39, 3 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alive/Dead

someone wrote, "However, she will later escape her grave, as she credited up to episode 20 of season 3. See, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0760989/filmoseries#tt0411008"

please dont write things like this as IMDB is a user-edited website.- Russell29

Kiele Sanchez and Rodrigo Santoro have confirmed that their characters are indeed dead. Depressed Marvin 16:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]