Talk:Untitled Korn album

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Genre

How can you already know that the genre is Nu-Metal? I'll remove it.

Itl b nu-metal bcuz all korn is new metal, its rock thats compatible w/ rap, the same thing as predicting what Nelly's upcoming album will be —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.38.64.234 (talk) 01:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Not really rock with rap but metal with rap. Red Hot Chili Peppers, Faith No More and Rage Against The Machine all rapped but they weren't nu-metal. Also I agree, it may not be nu-metal but who knows so far? Only one song has been released and that could just be the only one nu-metal sounding. See You On The Other Side wasn't nu-metal and that was a Korn album so this may be going further from the nu-metal sound of their early albums. Defunct Lies 19:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Possible track listing

"Madness"

i didn't want to put link into the article, so i post it here : http://www.sendspace.com/file/4k160t —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.28.188.28 (talk) 18:48, 16 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

Okay, that clip doesn't sound anything like the sound Korn has been describing. It's a decent riff, but nothing that I would expect. It's not even official. Then again, it is all speculation anyway. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.162.239.238 (talk) 03:43, 20 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

"I'm the One"

Why do people keep changing the mention of "I'm the One" to say that it will be featured on the album? The song is used as a live intro on the current tour. Instead of just speculating that just because it's a live intro that it won't be on the album, it would be best to look at the facts regarding Korn's albums, and the fact is Korn have never used an intro on any studio album to date. They've hardly even had "cold openings" to the opening tracks of the album. The only example I could think of where they even did this was on "Blind" from their 1994 debut album, that was a long time ago lol. It's similar to Marilyn Manson's 1998-1999 live intro "Inauguration of the Mechanical Christ". Just because it was an original introduction piece by the band, doesn't mean they had to record a studio version for the subsequent studio album (2000's "Holy Wood"), neither does Korn. It's just a live intro. R-Tiztik 17:34, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

15 string bass?

Can someone provide a link to that pic please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IndigoJones (talk • contribs) 10:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Well it was right there on Korn's website. It isn't there now that they revamped their site again recently. R-Tiztik 13:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Album Direction

This album to me, so far, sounds like a very progressive Untouchables. What do you guys think?URFG 18:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)URFG`[reply]

Article title

This article is having frantic title changes. First it went from the fair Korn's eighth studio album, then Untitled (Korn album) (another fair title considering the album is not titled), and now Korn (2007 Album) (the most non-reliable title yet). I think the confusion over the title being self-titled (due to the lone text of the logo or otherwise), is still no reason to speculate the album title and publish it as the title of the article. Tod Martens claimed the album was called Untitled, but this is as of yet the only source of a sufficient album title. I think until a real source come up, like a member of the band referring to the album by title (even if the title really is Korn or Untitled), that this article should be reverted back to Korn's eighth studio album. R-Tiztik 15:20, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The PRP says: "Korn have decided upon Untitled as the title to their new album which will see a July 31st release date through Virgin." How reliable is that? = ∫_t^c 5th Eye 20:16, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I was deciding on, but when I moved the article to Untitled (Korn album) someone made a Korn (2007 album) containing the exact same information. This source is good, but it should be included in the article (maybe it already is, not that I recall though). I've redirected Korn (2007 album) back to Untitled (Korn album). R-Tiztik 15:31, 4 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Anyways I re-added that source multiple times, but the problem is again arising due to Lincalinca being fixated on the belief that Korn have produced a second untitled record. The PRP has reported the album as Untitled, also among band members themselves referring to it as such. The PRP report reads:

"Untitled Title - wookubus

(4:25 PM PST 06/01/2007)

Korn have decided upon "Untitled" as the title to their new album which will see a July 31st release date through Virgin. An early preview of the album can be found here."

The album has been reported as deliberately titled Untitled, and even if that were not the case, it would not be self-titled. Even a Korn II is out of the question as there have only been reports of a sole logo and no "II". I still recommend that until the album is directly referred to on the official website or something, that the article be re-titled Korn's eighth studio album. R-Tiztik 18:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm for the reversion. The reliability of the sources reporting Untitled as the title do not meet notability guidelines (see WP:NOTE) but there's an abundance that do so, meanwhile only Billboard and MTV report that the album will be the second self titled album by the band. Both titles are very inexplicable and so may not be referenced by the band for some time, so to save confusion until there's absolute confirmation from Virgin Records or Korn themselves, I'm also for the reversion of the name. I do, however, believe it will be under the name Korn as that name is even mentioned in the Billboard interview where the band gives their reasons for a second album called that. --linca ^linca 06:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Even if you're right, that isn't what the problem is here. It's just that there are so many reports citing the album as Untitled or Korn, but not one word from the band itself regarding the title. Martens [the interviewer] included in his report that the album was titled Korn, and while he featured direct quotes from band members regarding specific song descriptions, Martens fell short of including any quotations from the band members as to the album title; and so the question remains. The point here is that with all these titles coming up and all, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Anyone else think the article title should revert? R-Tiztik 13:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of any of this—"Korn (Korn album)" is unacceptable as a title. Korn was also written by Korn, and this is just getting confusing. It needs to be moved back to Untitled (Korn album), or, reluctantly, Korn (2007 album). = ∫_t^c 5th Eye 16:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think both titles are unsuitable at the moment as at the moment neither are in favor of each other. While an implicit second self-titled sounds silly, it could happen if the band went with it. While an untitled sounds also somewhat arbitrary, it also could happen (I can see how it would make more sense too), but neither are sourced by the band itself. To revert the article title to Untitled (Korn album) would be in favor of that title and not neutral to the latter, and Korn (2007 album) would be in favor of that title and not neutral to the former. To avoid such confusion and abide to the neutrality of articles in Wikipedia, I still believe Korn's eighth studio album is the best possible choice for a title at the moment. R-Tiztik 16:19, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the page to Korn's eighth studio album yet again, and changed all title mentions (I was amazed to see that people actually allowed there to be mentions of it as Korn AND Untitled multiple times) back to reflect the neutrality of there being no title ("The album is . . ." instead of "Untitled is . . .") and such. I've also included mention of the disputation of the album's title in the Current Status section. Now everyone, just leave the article title alone for now! R-Tiztik 22:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

New Album Cover

Ok so i tried uploading the new album cover, which was revealed on myspace today. I filled out the form and nothing seemed to happen. Can someone help me? Passenger91 23:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edit:: Ok my bad, i just saw that it was being protected for vandalism. Passenger91 23:49, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Two Wiki Pages

Why is there 2 pages for Untitled and Korn's Eighth album? both with the wrong album cover 80.229.169.189 15:05, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The cover on this article is correct, but what other article are you talking about? --linca ^linca 15:25, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The final cover is orange-tinted. It was here last time I visited this page, so someone must have reverted it for some reason. R-Tiztik 17:58, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And now it's restored. R-Tiztik 18:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Intro

There are websites that say there is and there isn't an Intro. I believe there is one. It will probably be similar to the Intro from Twisted Transistor (Album Version)

Reference

Can we get some sources for what the new album is being referred to because I have never seen it referred to anything but "Untitled" so where does "Pioneer" and "Turn the Crank" come from? Jay316 10:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)