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Ben Malek

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No demonstrated notability by reliable independent sources as all the links are related to him or for promotion purposes as he is an author. A google search doesn't turn up any indepedent sources, mainly trivial listings selling his book or his own articles. This was a contested prod and the article was deleted previously under CSD for no assertion of notability. The author of the article also probably has a conflict of interest with the subject as per this note on my talk page: [1]. Cquan (after the beep...) 16:31, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete I simply can't find anything. Anyway, COI doesn't matter, but there just doesn't seem to be anything for somebody who's been so talked about, supposedly, according to our article. I'm concerned also that the only returned result out of only 12 for "Ben Malek" and Domino is our article--maybe it's a fake article. KP Botany 18:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • So if you do the second search using his correct last name, does your concern go away? Malibailey
  • Keep Do a search for "Ben Malekzadeh" and you will see a 1460 hits. How does this promote him in any way? The links are to the Library of Congress, which does not sell books. If you click on any link that is included, you will see. The 3 magazines mentioned are all print magazine that were formerly published by [Penton Media], which is a very large publisher. One of the books was published by [McGraw-Hill] which is not a small publisher. Take a look at people listed under category computer specialist. Most of them just say the person works for Microsoft.. Is that Notable? This person was a columnist for a technical magazine for over 6 years, has authored 2 books, contributed to a dozen more books, and been known as an expert in his field. What does it take to be notable? People in his field recognize his name. Do another search and you will see, but this time use his pen name. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malibailey (talk • contribs) 15:05, 16 July 2007 (UTC)}}[reply]
This template must be substituted. --Dhartung | Talk 21:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete, he's real; I've heard of him and we may well know at least one person in common but even as a published author he's just another guy who wrote a how-to book or two. We're not a directory of published authors, only of notable ones. --Dhartung | Talk 21:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment, What does it take for someone to be considered notable? I would think someone who excels in their field of study or career, and who has made contributions to that field should be considered notable. I don't know who you know that knows him or not, but I am a fan of his writing, reading his books and columns for over 6 years has helped me and many of my collegues in their careers. He's not a blogger, he's not someone that has written things for websites, but someone that actually wrote books that were published by major publishers, spoke at conferences that regarded him as an expert, and even some of the articles he wrote were notable enough to be translated and re-published into Spanish, Italian and French. If you think it is that easy to get a book contract from companies like McGraw-Hill, I think you should all try and see how far you get. I disagree with the comment of "he's just another guy who wrote a how-to book or two. Even if that is all that he did, does he have to cure cancer to be considered notable? There are tons of people that have done less and you guys aren't going through nominating them for deletion... Malibailey
  • Comment, All of you citing COI, would any of you care to say under what grounds it is COI? It is not financial, self-promotion, autobiography, etc... So state your caseMalibailey
  • I did see that, but I wouldn't consider what I said to be a COI. I fixed the article,I changed the links away from Amazon, and added my own 2 cents. So even if he did write it originally, I stepped in and added what I thought would take and COI away from it. Malibailey
  • Comment. Just as a note, since this has come up a lot, COI is not a deletion criterion, but it is usually worth noting, especially in cases of disputed notability (in general, people tend to think those that have affected them personally are more significant than would otherwise be the case). The deletion nom is on the basis of notability and lack of reliable indepedent sources for that notability. COI is just a side note. Cquan (after the beep...) 22:08, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • After rereading the article and Cquan's comment, I am retracting my COI complaint. Thanks for the clarification. —Travistalk 22:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Cquan... Thanks for being fair on the COI, but I still want to know your definition of notable, because I think he is. Have you done a search on "Ben Malekzadeh" ? Malibailey
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