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Release Date

The poster shows July 20th but the info bar shows July 27th. Davi Williams 19:18, 17 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Temporal and grammatical distortion

The article states:

"Hairspray is a film adaptation of the Broadway musical of the same name. The Broadway musical was made after the 1988 film"

"Ricki Lake, who played Tracy Turnblad in the 1988 version"

"More recently, Tony-award winner Marissa Jaret Winokur, who originated Tracy Turnblad in the Broadway version"

Winokur couldn't have "originated Tracy Turnblad in the Broadway version" if the character was played by Lake in a film version which preceded the Broadway version. She may have instantiated the character in the Broadway version.

I think that what you call grammatical distortion could simply be your lack of understanding of Broadway terminology. Ricki lake did not originate the role of Tracy Turnblad as we know her in the musical, but rather created the role in the film. That's like saying that Idina Menzel didn't originate the role of Elphaba or that Daphne Rubin-Vega didn't originate Mimi

194.46.237.10 00:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Someone should describe the play/movie, so people who have never heard of it knows what it is about. andrew... 13:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody Knows what Hairspray was originally about...you didn't say anything about the plot of the whole movie!! or Play for that mattter!

Nobody Knows what Hairspray was originally about...you didn't say anything about the plot of the whole movie!! or Play for that mattter!You should explain it....sure we know whos init but whos Link larkin..does he wear to much Hairspray we don't even know...it's unexplained!!!--70.106.113.74 21:23, 5 July 2006 (UTC)Sam[reply]

How did C. Walken get this part?

Werd. 69.141.220.219

what is it about

First of all what is thei s Hairspaey about even though you already have me hooked because Zac Efron is in it I still need to know what it is about. Give me some info please.

Detria AKA ZacEfron lover 2.0

?

Is Queen Latifah really going to be in this? -24.92.41.95 00:38, 22 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

John Travolta

You have to be kidding me!!--Filll 21:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Not kidding. I for one can't wait to see Travolta as a transvestite. It's gonna be funny as hell. :)

Trivia

Jerry Stiller is going to play Mr. Pinky and his original Role, Mr. Turnblad, will be taken on by Cristopher Walken. I think he is the only one to appear on both movies.

Ricki Lake is also in both movies. She played Tracy in the '88 film and has a cameo in the new one.  – AMK1211talk! 18:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

alliterical

WTF does alliterical mean? --Tagishsimon (talk)

Citations to add to expand the article

Citations

  1. Staff (14/06/2007). "Travolta slammed by gay rights over Hairspray". Irish Examiner. Thomas Crosbie Media 2007. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |date= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  2. Rush & Molly. "Travolta in 'Spray' revolts gays". New York Daily News. 2007 NYDailyNews.com. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  3. Staff (June 13, 2007). "People: Hugo Rifkind". The Times UK. Times Newspapers Ltd. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  4. Walls, Jeannette (June 12, 2007). "Will jailbird Paris campaign for chickens? Plus: Some gay fans want to can new 'Hairspray'". MSNBC. NBC. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  5. Naff, Kevin (Editor) (May 18, 2007). "When Scientologists attack: Gays should be wary of 'church' that has helped advance the reckless idea that homosexuality can be cured". Washington Blade. A Window Media LLC Publication. {{cite news}}: |first= has generic name (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  6. Davenport, Misha (June 1, 2007). "Sinful cinema, you say? Let's have nun of that". Chicago Sun-Times. Sun-Times News Group. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  7. Grover, Sally (June 13, 2007). "Gays Oppose John Travolta's "HairSpray"". All Headline News. 2007 by AHN Media Corp. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  8. Bruno, Mike (June 15, 2007). "NEWS ROUNDUP: Clarkson Postpones Summer Tour : Plus: Lost creators promise they won't end with an ambiguous Sopranos-style conclusion, McCartney's record hits No. 3, MTV launches green initiative, and more..." Entertainment Weekly. 2007 Entertainment Weekly and Time Inc. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  9. Staff (June 15, 2007). "Travolta faces gay boycott over Scientology". National Nine News. 2007 ninemsn Pty Ltd, MSN. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)
  10. O'Reilly, Bill (June 19, 2007). "Travolta Boycott: A gay newspaper plans to boycott John Travolta's new movie: 'Hairspray'". The O'Reilly Factor. Fox News. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)

Discussion

I say put it in, but in a more neutral tone. Travolta slammed by gay rights... is very POV IMHO. Would it be possible to describe this as Travolta criticized by gay rights... instead. Slammed to me implies being crushed by the inarguable truth, until we see pictures of him and his boyfriend doing more than lip locking as they board/exit a plane or he admits it WP:BLP must be the standard by which we add info. (To be clear; controversy is ok as long as it's reported in a neutral tone.) Anynobody 08:10, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, I had no intention of doing anything like that, just pulling information from the citations above to form a new subsection in this article. Smee 08:12, 15 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]
I honestly didn't think so, for the most part. The inclusion in the heading though left a tiny bit of doubt in my mind. I don't mean to be presumptuous but I've removed it. (How would some of our Scientologist editors take this? "Travolta slammed by gay rights over Hairspray") Anynobody 08:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Duly noted. I have no objections to the changed header. Smee 08:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]
The last edit was an emergency measure to avoid undue misinterpretation. How would you feel about changing the title to something like Travolta criticized by gay rights..., so the readers know what we're talking about? (Again, I'm not saying you intended to make the tone like the headline. I'm guessing the point of my post is what it's original purpose was.) Anynobody 08:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Either way... Smee 08:22, 15 June 2007 (UTC).[reply]
I'll leave it as is since I loathe changing others work on a talk page. Anynobody 08:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
BTW the sources are outstanding, I think you can safely add info about the controversy on the basis of their strength. (I'm partial to sources that are linked.) Anynobody 08:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gays boycott movie

On O'Reilly last night, Bill was talking with Dennis Miller about this. The gay community is doing this because of John Travolta being a scientologist. --71.224.24.99 12:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The gay community has also had some issues since Travolta stated "there is nothing gay about Hairspray" [1]

Perhaps Hairspray doesn't specifically deal with gay issues, but we are talking about a film based on a camp classic directed and written by a gay man that looks at prejudice and self-acceptance. In some ways, the story of Hairspray has even greater relevance to gay audiences now. One of the storylines involves an interracial romance in the years before anti-miscegenation laws were repealed -- an issue LGBT people have been considering more of late. Additionally, Travolta's is taking on a role associated with two gay men, Divine and Harvey Fierstein.

Australian Release

i am not sure but when i went ot the movies yesterday (11 July 2007) i saw a poster with hairspray on it with the whole you know inforation thing at the bottom but without a release date, so... although i KNOW it was hairspray, but is it almost possible to say it might be released in the cinemas instead of on TV like High School Musical?Australian Jezza 00:42, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cast List

Is it standard to list previous film roles after the actors name in a cast list? That does not seem like a great policy - for example why would you list Grease for John Travolta instead of Pulp Fiction? If no one can provied a guiding philosophy within a week, I intend to remove the references to previous movies. 207.69.137.35 14:02, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's not standard. It's actually against Wikipedia standards, and has been removed. --FuriousFreddy 16:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

References to other Waters films

I have removed the references to other John Waters films as they have nothing to do with this movie. 209.247.22.166 12:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thumbs Down

Ugggg!!! I walked out of this movie 2/3s of the way through. The songs were crap. The writing was crap. It was completely miserable.

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