Talk:Live 8
Suggestion for perfomer lists
Like the original Live Aid page, the acts can be re-arranged in order of performance after the concert has happened... --Madchester 18:09, 2005 May 31 (UTC)
Redirection?
I've seen Live 8 described as "Live Aid II" in at least one external source...should Live Aid II be created as a redirect? --DXI 22:14, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
- Ok, but only if include the quote from Geldof that he doesn't want the event to be called Live Aid II. Pcb21| Pete 22:26, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
- I was going to do a redirect page at Live Aid II when I set up the Live 8 page, but it occurred to me that it is very early days and it seems likely to me that the name Live 8 will become second nature to everybody over the weeks to come (it would be like having a redirect from Beetles to Beatles - I hope there isn't one or that destroys my argument) Btljs
- Heh Beetles redirects to Beetle which links to Beetle (disambiguation), which does correct errant spellers by pointing to The Beatles amongst other things.
- In the circumstances, I added a couple of sentences with links that showed it was called Live Aid 2 by lots of the press until they announced the official name. If down the line this turns out to be irrelevant, then we can remove it at that time. Pcb21| Pete 13:51, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Criticisms
Is it just me or are those criticisms ubiquitous to any aid/charitable organization? Also, Live 8 is about promoting awareness (to things like debt cancellation and fair trade) NOT raising aid money.... Hence the free shows
A more realistic and potential problem I do see is scalpers hoarding all the lottery tickets and selling them on eBay, on site, etc....--Madchester 19:14, 2005 Jun 1 (UTC)
- My concern is that the criticisms section is the thoughts of the writer, because that section doesn't seem to tally up with the actual criticisms that have been levelled on the last day or so. Who really says "neocolonialism" in the context of this event? Pcb21| Pete 19:34, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- More specific quotes are needed in this section definitely. Is there another article somewhere which covers the general debate between pro-charity and anti-charity parties when it comes to developing countries? If so, this should be cited to avoid having to restate all the arguments every time there is a charity event. If not we will have to insert a Counter-criticisms section for balance. Btljs
"Questioning whether trade or Western governments are indeed major factors in social problems within Africa, including AIDS, poverty and corruption, suggesting that internal reform within Africa is more important than foreign aid."
- Firstly, I know of no news source that would seriously contend that trade is not a problem for Africa. Secondly, this criticism needs to be made more specific to this event. I've taken it out for the moment. Palefire 12:18, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)
Criticism: Ethnicity of performers
Mariah Carey, the only non White artist? (Isn't she white?) What about Snoop Dogg?--Richy 22:24, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- The joy of citing sources. BBC calls Mariah non-white, not us :). As for Snoop Dogg, the confusion probably arises because most lists of performers don't include him for some reason. He is not on the official website for example. Pcb21| Pete 10:38, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
- Snoop was announced during the original press conference. Go to the BBC article, and his name is mentioned as part of the 7-8 minute video. Razorlight too. Both didn't get mentioned in printed material for some reason. --Madchester 15:28, 2005 Jun 3 (UTC)
- Which just goes to prove what a ludicrous distinction it is being white or non-white. This isn't apartheid era South Africa. Btljs
Charity?
Not meaning to nit-pick, but are these strictly charity concerts if they are not to raise money? I know that charitable organisations are involved and I don't quite know what else to call them but this is of a different order of event than Live Aid as it is directly targetting world leaders and politicians rather than the population at large. They are kind of political pressure rallies with music. Btljs
Tickets London Live 8 - text competition
I have a question about the “Ticket Lottery” – How can NON-UK-People take part??? I think it is not possible to send a Text Message to a Special “UK Texting Number” from a non UK mobile net!?