Talk:Deal or No Deal (British game show)

Christmas Specials Section

I removed the section on Wrighty's game, since it was quite poor. It doesn't explain if this was the game for the afternoon or evening. Taking out the high numbers after you've dealt is only arguably lucky, since it doesn't affect what you win. Likewise Noel revealing £3000 in his box doesn't "increase Wrighty's win" - he still won the same amount. --PaulTaylor 14:35, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

The May 13 Episode

I guess this is going to need some discussion. For anyone who didn't see it, I'll try to explain what happened briefly: the Banker offered a swap instead of the first offer, which the player took. He then no-dealt to the last two boxes, the one of which besides his box was the box he'd swapped out to begin with. So the Banker offered him another swap as his final offer, instead of any money (as opposed to offering money, then a swap if it's rejected, as normally happens). He didn't swap. The board at this point had £75,000 and 1p, and his box turned out to have 1p. The Banker called again, and "as a thank-you for his birthday present" (the player had given him a present of some Noel Edmonds CDs or something), he said he'd also get whatever the viewer competition prize was (£15k as it turned out).

Anyway, I've taken his name off the "1p Wins" list (since he didn't win 1p), but added an explanatory note, and a pointer to the Viewer Competition section where it's explained in more detail. If they start referring to him on the show as being in the 1p club I suppose I'd agree he should be put back on the list with the note. Anyway, my feeling is that it's a bit too much text for one show's events as it stands. Thoughts?--PaulTaylor 18:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

He was mentioned on the show as being in the 1p club, but that of course was before the offer of the viewers prize. I quite like the way you've done it.

I think it needs to be made clear that he was given the viewers prize as a thank you for the bankers birthday present, not because he wasn't offered a final offer, because that would make the banker seem "soft" and I don't think that was their intention at all :) Nzseries1 07:52, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

He was given the viewers prize as a thank you for the bankers birthday present, not because he wasn't offered a final offer - what twaddle. He was given the viewers prize because Glenn Hugill was in danger of having his head stoved in by a mob of angry pilgrims. -88.110.169.67 09:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Well, that was the reason given on the show, but of course you're right! Nzseries1 09:54, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I notice that as the article currently reads, there's no explanation anywhere that he wasn't given a proper final offer. This is definitely misleading, so I shall endeavour to find the best way to fix it.--PaulTaylor 10:00, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

I reverted the last edit to the 1p Wins section (minus the description "Banker's controversial tactic" which is POV). I think it's pretty illogical to argue against what was there. It may be implying that the swap offer was the reason for the additional prize, but it's only doing that - there's no causal link stated. The reader is left to draw their own conclusions. I agree that readers will universally infer a causal link, but that's fine since there is one anyway.--PaulTaylor 14:26, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Your version allows the reader to draw their own conclusions - I believe the previous version did not. I'm happy to relent, for now :-) Nzseries1 10:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

External Links Section

Whilst I agree with the editors who have repeatedly removed this link, I don't think we can justifiably keep doing it whilst allowing other fan websites to stay. Either they all go, or they all stay - I'd prefer them to go, but I'd be interested in hearing others' justifications for favouring some over others. --John24601 16:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

• The owner of this website, or whoever keeps ptting it there, have already posted a link to a site similar to this one, in which the content is vrtually the same. Also the link (Thesecretcastle) redirects to a forum. Hosted by proboards. It also seems that they are trying to promote the site. Al of these are links to be avoided per WP:EL Thenthornthing 18:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I wholeheartedly agree with you, but whilst I share a particular distaste for this website's inclusion, I don't see how it is that different to alot of the others that are there.--John24601 20:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

True, i have deleted another link which breeches the WP:EL i am going thorugh them and deleting any more which prove to breech it. I tried to notify the people @ Secret Castle, and found i had to register for that, which is another breech of WP:EL So gave up. Any more sites which are likke that i will delete. Thenthornthing 09:58, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

July 2007 More links removed

• I have deletted two more links from the External Links section, the first i have previously removed about a month ago, the website blatently breaks WP:EL which should be abided to, because mainly it's full of pop ups. The second site i deleted isn't too bad, the reason deleted was the game is a duplicate of This Site which has he Deal Or No Deal game. I believe that one link is sufficient. Cheers Thenthornthing 15:48, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

photos

Do we really need the photo of the proposal. It does not hae anything to do with the section it is placed in (christmas specials). If we are going to keep it, then we should have a section detailing the proposal in full with the picture beside that. StuartDD 12:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I thought that, it wasn't even in a Christmas episode. It's just one moment that happened in about 500 episodes so I dunno if it deserves an entire section, it should probably just be removed entirely. BillyH 13:07, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

It was me who added the photo, god knows why i added it there, i can't actually remember! I will move it, adn if any further moves are required do so! Sorry about that Thenthornthing 13:30, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The Monty Hall Problem

Someone has added an awful lot about the Monty Hall problem. But, 1. Does it belong here? And 2. Can it be sourced, or is it the opinion of the author?

I personally am not sure that all the information provided is accurate. If it is accurate however, I think it should go on the main Deal or no Deal page, rather than the UK specific version. Nzseries1 08:41, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

• It's been added a few times already, both here and to the main Deal or No Deal page. I keep deleting it - I believe I am the 'Adolf' in the charming edit summaries. It's just wrong for so many reasons. It inauspiciously starts with an accuracy dispute tag (so why whoever it is seems so insistent on adding it I have no idea). Then it's broken up without explanation into two 'versions', whatever that can mean in an encyclopedia. Version 1 has a reference to some kind of computing lecture notes from Stanford that seem to bear utterly no relevance to anything written. What is written there is so laughably incorrect that if anyone actually believes it, I suggest we meet up and gamble a bit on some playing cards. They will soon not have enough money left to be able to afford the internet connection necessary to keep editing this article. Version 2 is generally factually correct, but badly formatted and irrelevant without a Version 1 for it to be a rebuttal of. The whole thing is written target at the American version of DoND (dollars and briefcases). So I'm going to delete it again now. Hopefully if anyone disagrees, we can discuss it here instead of just edit-warring for ever and ever.--PaulTaylor 11:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

1. I'm John Nash. Making you laugh is just a by-product of my work. 2. Playing cards has nothing to do with this scenario. In a game of poker, you know your hand. Here, you don't. In a game of poker, you do not know the hand of others. Here, you do. Quite the opposite. So, please come up with some more profound criticism.

Classic Deal or no Deal

What was the game on 30th June? - it hasn't been added to the list yet. StuartDD 10:21, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Viewer Competition

I edited the Viewers' Competition section to reflect the news regarding Channel 4's premuim-rate stuff. Probably will need updating when the new series starts and we see how the competition now works. Also, I got rid of the list of days when the amounts in the viewer boxes were unusual. It made sense to begin with but then they started doing it more and more and the list just got bloated and silly, and after all, WP:NOT#INFO. (I suggest the same possibly needs doing to the Deal or No Deal Classic section sometime soon.)--PaulTaylor 15:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Is it worth mentioning somewhere that the viewer competiton has been rather obviously and poorly edited from the end of the recording to after the first break in the Season 3 shows?MGCooke 00:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)