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Lansing Bennett

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CIA doctor killed by a foreign nation. This seems to be as far as his notability extends. Other than that he was just one of many other Government employees of similar anonymity. This article doesn't appear to meet the criteria for WP:BIO. 1060ghits mostly of news reports of the assassination though most only mention him in passing and discuss the wider issues. Some of those hits relate to the name of a Forest. WebHamster 11:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The Forest was named after him because he was considered an important person.
Note: Other CIA employees, such as Valerie Plame, have less claim to notability, yet they have an article.Mrs.EasterBunny 23:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mir Aimal Kansi has no notability except his murders. Hinkley has no notability except his attempted murders. Both have article.Mrs.EasterBunny 23:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge and redirect to Mir Aimal Kansi. This certainly was a notable incident -- two analysts were machine-gunned in their cars as they drove into work. I know 1993 was a long time ago, but this and the first WTC bombing were considered pretty important news at the time and the victim's names are plausible search terms. --Dhartung | Talk 19:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong Keep
  • The 1993 terrorist attack was the first incident of Islamic terrorism on US soil (later followed by the 1993 WTC attack, September 11th WTC and Pentagon attack, etc.) As such, it is notable.
  • Reason why not to merge with Mir Aimal Kansi; for the same reason that Reagan is not merged to the Hinkley article and the September 11th article is not merged with the bin Laden article.
  • Reason why not to delete. Bennett is one of the few people memorialized in the CIA wall of stars. He is not just a murdered Westerner.
  • I am not related to Lansing Bennett.
  • Another reason why not to delete. His death made him notable. Teacher astronaut Christa McAuliff has an article yet she did nothing except was a passenger on a fatal bus accident (albeit bus to space, i.e. Space Shuttle). Others with articles include Daniel Pearl and William R. Higgins. McAuliff, he has had things named after him after his death. There is also a memorial outside the CIA for Bennett; it's a garden and a bench and plaque. Tim McCarthy has an article and he doesn't even have a memorial, wasn't even killed.
  • Note: Some may hate the CIA and want to punish Bennett by deleting the article.
  • Meets criteria. "The person has been the subject of published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." None of the 14 of so sources in the article are Lansing Bennett websites or websites of friends and some other articles exists but are not used in the article. There's even more stuff in print since he was murdered before the internet era.
  • The article has been improved!

comments revised slightly Mrs.EasterBunny 19:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment These are all memorial sources. I don't want to sound insensitive as it would appear you're a relative of the deceased, but biographical subjects need a certain degree of prominence. The examples you give are all of very famous people, which is why we recognize the names instantly: Hinckley will go down in history as an attempted presidential assassin, McAuliff was famous before she died as the (planned) first teacher in space, has had films made about her... We're don't "hate the CIA", we're not "trying to punish Bennett", we're just pointing out that this is not the place for articles which are basically memorials, however well-loved he was by his family, colleagues, local community. There have been lots of articles deleted relating to 9/11 for the same reason: victims of newsworthy events don't immediately qualify as "encyclopedia notable", even though their names may have appeared in news items on those events. It's not personal, we're not attacking this man's memory. Thomjakobsen 00:16, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep per Mrs. Bunny's reason 1 (was a notable event) and 2nd to last reason (does meet criteria). If merged, a new article should be created entitled "1993 attack at CIA headquarters" or something like that, not under the terrorist's article. People under 40 probably don't remember the attack.UTAFA 21:01, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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