Talk:Black Lagoon

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Remove Worthless Content

I'd just like to get some opinions of this matter. I was very nearly tempted to trim, if not delete the vast entirety of the "Cultural References" section.
Seems to me that too much worthless infomation was put into a trivia section, and to tidy it up, they forked it into the "Cultural References".
The problem however is that most of it is utter crap.
Listing the details of each parody such as "Coka Cola", or Heineken, talking about mini-disks because they used it.. even the opinion of what they think of each other.

Thats worthless content, as such, should be removed--Bazarnz 14:16, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Original Research

The themes about german philosophy (existentialism) look like original research. Unless the mangaka has stated he/she based it off existentialism Ideas I don't think it merits inclusion. I think also the Trivia section should be incorporated into article its discouraged because of policy changes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.220.236.251 (talk) 23:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Revy/Levy/Levi etc

Official site has it listed as Revy. Makes the most sense to go with that one. [1]

81.178.197.121 22:48, 1 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

      It is short for Rebecca, so Revy would be the most sensible choice.

E.O.

In the Anime they refer to a mercenary group called "Extra Order", I'd say this is a referance to the now defunct Executive Outcomes. --Theredstarswl 07:17, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge proposal

I'm not exactly sure which way to merge this, but there is no point in keeping two articles for the same anime. TheFarix (Talk) 14:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Support

TheFarix (Talk) 14:57, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ominae (Talk) 15:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Theredstarswl (Talk) 10:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

Two questions: 1. What other article? 2. Did this already get merged? --Zaorish 19:17, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Few Notes

Someone could get lost thinking black lagoon would be Creature from the black lagoon
Most people doesn't know anything about black lagoon anime.
The new article i made was the same Black Lagoon anime article.

Weapons of Black Lagoon

Should a section be created to list the weapons shown in the series? I'm far from an expert when it comes to weapons, but they are a big part of Black Lagoon.

So far I've seen:

Revy's Beretta 92FSs, She also uses a M79 40mm Grenade Launcher, A GEPARD anti-material rifle, A APS underwater rifle, A RPG of some kind, Likely a 7 and an unknown SMG, I think its a Steyer TMP, In the end credits she has a pump shotgun of some kind.
A H&K G3/FAL rifle of some kind that Rock throws at the HIND.
Kalashnikov rifles used by the Extra Order mercs, The leader has a Desert Eagle .50AE I think.
Roberta's Umbrella gun is a SPAS-12 and I think the suitcase gun is a H&K MP5, I think she also uses a M1911.
Duch has a large calibre revolver, I think its a .44 Mag or a .357 of some kind and a 12ga Remington 870 Marine Magnum.
The PBRs have twin M2 Brownings and some other MGs (M60s?), The crews have M-16s and AKs I think.
I think the police have .38 Revolvers.
Eda has a Glock.
Kar98k rifles and a Walther P38 pistol on the U-Boat.
TOW anti-tank missiles, The neo-nazis also use a MG3 or MG42 with a 75rnd drum and one of them has a gold plated .454 Casull Luger.

Thats all I can think of at the time. --Theredstarswl 10:18, 7 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe a table organized by episode?--Mers 05:36, 8 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Check this: http://zappers.k-server.org/menu.html

Most info is based from the manga, so you may want to do reference. 70.68.46.180 10:00, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yolanda, the leader of the convent, seems to have a customized golden Desert Eagle (seems to be a Desert Eagle, I'm not entirely sure). Hatlawa 04:27, 6 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe such information is worth listing, it isn't relevant to the show to list every small detail., the only weapon of note in the show is the cutlass Revy uses, since its given a sizable amount of screen time, the rest should be left out.
--Bazarnz 14:23, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia comment on Revy's RPG warning

It seems overanalytical to me to say that this is a reference to what seems to be a common or established military practice in the field. I think it's similar to saying that every time someone yells "Fire in the hole!" in a film that this is a reference to all the other war movies in which something similar happens, as well as in real life. Basically I think it's not necessary. Any thoughts? --BrokenSphere 20:29, 2 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. --Theredstarswl 04:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

Concerning Leigharch, I thought that he is actually a drug user of some sort. Shenhua calls him a "junkie" several times, even saying that "his brain is flying around Mars[...]"; after Revy, Shenhua and Rock come back from the guerilla camp they find him completely "relaxed" (the look in his eyes is quite obvious); and during the chase Revy gives one of Leigharch cigarettes to Rock but not referring it as a smoke, and a moment later Rock is seen in the same state than Leigharch, mumbling and complaining softly, his eyes being halfway closed. Rock is often seen smoking cigarettes in the previous episodes without experiencing this kind of effects. However is Leigharch using marijuana or some other drug? Hatlawa 07:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have been thinking over the following term describing Balalaika: "She wears her BDU shirt as a jacket." To me this doesn't sound right as it doesn't look anything at all like a BDU and appears to be more of a military dress trenchcoat, but I'm not sure how to reword it.

At one point during a fight Dutch mentions that it's worse than Khe Sanh, implying that he was a US Marine there during the battle. The US Army later relieved the Marines after the battle and the relieving troops didn't fully appreciate what the Marines had gone through during the siege. This background would also make more sense given that he now captains a PT boat.

Mr. Chan's appearance (white dress shirt and black tie, black trenchcoat, shades, white scarf) is a possible reference to and appears to be a composite of the attire worn in the early scenes by Chow Yun Fat's characters in The Killer and A Better Tomorrow; in the former he wears the whole outfit mentioned above with the addition of a vest, while in the latter he again, wears the whole outfit mentioned above but is missing the shades and adds black gloves. He engages in wielding two pistols simultaneously in both guises. It should be noted that in both of these movies Chow plays criminals, a gangster in ABT and a hitman in The Killer, as opposed to being a cop in Hard Boiled. His comments about his arm not being good yet demonstrating that his skills are still sharp may be a reference to the character Sydney in The Killer, a friend of Jeffrey (Chow) who himself is a hitman; his shooting hand has been injured, supposedly preventing him from handling a gun, yet he is still able to do so. --BrokenSphere 17:58, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've found some interesting evidence on Hansel and Gretel. Don't know if we can still identify them as male and female.

http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q115/Magical_gurololi_Akazukin/?action=view&current=twins.jpg

--Ominae 23:22, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

EDA

Shouldn't it be noted that EDA is a man/was born male?

- Anime denies it in Chapter 15

New category for images

I've set up a category called Black Lagoon images; it's a subcategory of Animanga images, so for any image from the anime/manga, feel free to add in the tag [[Category:Black Lagoon images]] under Licensing info. --BrokenSphere 18:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia section

Anyone else think it would be fair to turn this into a "References" section, as it's more or less become a section citing all the references to pop culture etc contained within Black Lagoon, rather than just miscellaneous trivia.

How about a Cultural References section incorporating those. --BrokenSphere 16:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Created - I just copypasted most of the stuff over from the trivia section though - I think it could do with a little preface along the lines of "Black Lagoon contains a variety of references to pop culture and history... etc" but I'm not exactly sure how to phrase it. Lmaowitzer 19:22, 2 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is it just me, or has the "references" section of this article grown far to long? Wouldn't it be better to merge it with a main description of the series? What are your opinions? Michae2109 18:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A lot of the info is so circumstantial and only appears once that putting it back into the main description would detract from that and be distracting to the reader. Someone actually started creating individual pages for the episodes but it's currently only at eps 4-7; the individual trivia that occurs only in specific episodes (assuming that pages are created for all 24) could go into the respective pages for those, and consistent references could stay in a ref section. BrokenSphere 16:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That sounds like a good idea. It was actually me who started creating those individual pages for the episodes. I am planning to create one for each of the 24 episodes, and it sounds like a good idea to merge the "references" with a trivia section for each episode. If no one has any objections to that, I will continue with creating the episode pages as soon as possible and proceede to take the references into their respective episodes=) (Michae2109 17:11, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please do remove the Cultural references, they really don't have a place in this article --Bazarnz 14:26, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Question. What about the earlier episodes from episode 1? Is it me or maybe you forgot? Ominae 03:33, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The release date for Black Lagoon has changed. Link:

http://www.animeondvd.com/forum/showtopic.php?tid/18797/

The release date is now set for May 22, 2007. Also, new English website from Geneon for Black Lagoon is set here: http://www.blacklagooncompany.com/ Delariean 17:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The English website was already added; as for the new release date, feel free to go and add that in yourself. --BrokenSphere 17:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

DVD releases

Does anyone know how many episodes of the series which have been released on DVD. I found it to be 1 DVD which contains episodes 1 to 4. Is this correct? Michae2109 08:59, 6 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Extraeneous images

I think that at least 4 of the images on the article page aren't necessary: the group shot of the characters, and the 3 used to illustrate 3 seperate character's viewpoints in the style and thems section. The first, largely because the Lagoon Co. does have their own pics anyway in the list of page, so a pic of them isn't really necessary here; compare other anime article pages that have brief blurbs about the characters with more in-depth commentary and image elsewhere. As for the 3, I really don't see the need for them to illustrate the assertions made in the themes section. BrokenSphere^{Msg me} 05:23, 17 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]