Talk:Dodgeball

Georges Ninkles says....

Remember the five D's:

Dodge Duck Dip Dive

...Dodge

A variant (Poison Ball, etc.)

The only kind of Dodgeball I'm familiar with is the kind I played in Finnish PE. No teams, one ring, one or two throwers at the edges and anyone hit with the ball (possibly excepting a few areas, there's a bit of variance there) joins the throwers. The last person in the ring wins. I'd add this to the variants list, but don't know how I'd do it. -- Kizor 23:15, 30 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

dude that called poison ball

I live in rural Virginia in the US and that's the version of dodgeball we played in elementary school as well.--Champignonne 19:26, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Growing up in Southern New Hampshire, we knew the game described in the article as Bombardment and the game described by Kizor and Champignonne as Dodgeball. I think some mention of this alternate name and/or the "Dodgeball" / "Poison ball" alternate naming scheme explained, would all be beneficial! I will try to add when I think of it, or someone else can! Isoxyl 16:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I grew up in the Chicago area. Same there: in a circle is dodgeball; across a line is bombardment. Kensol1 15:11, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Physicality

SilverTen says..

Dodgeball is the funniest movie since happy gilmour, everyone should be smoked in the face with a dodgeball, it really doesn't hurt. Then maybe our children will learn to be tough and the little weaklings we teach them to be with all these laws. Parents, throw something sharp and pointy at your kids, they'll learn a lot faster then if you were to put them in there rooms for half and hour and then buy them anything they want after they've cried there heads off the whole time they were in there.

I had a sadistic PE coach in junior high (late '50s) who thought dodgeball was "manly." He made us use *basketballs* and we damn well hated it. Everyone limped around the rest of the day with bruises. The bastard finally was fired for making a kid do punishment push-ups and then beating him on the butt with a track shoe for going too slow. PE does not have good memories for many of us. --Michael K. Smith 17:01, 14 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gdowns says... I just want to say that dodgeball is an exclusive game, and with the aim of physical education to be INCLUSIVE it really doesn't fit. Some kids are forced to play when they really don't want to.

---I live in New York, which means that dodgeball doesn't exist in our schools. It really sucks. Me and my friends are attempting to start a dodgeball club though.

I don't understand what the problem is. Dodgeball isn't any more dangerous than football or basketball or hockey. They get hit with a foam ball. Even in the face, it's not going to cause you to bleed or anything. And if needed, just kick kids out if they start aiming for the head on purpose. --72.226.224.251 03:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

develops usefull skills

I didnt see it under the controversy part, and I'm not sure if others have used this argument, but I've always contended that Dodgeball is good for unathletic kids because it forces them to learn to dodge and keep away from the ball, something they should already be familiar with. In something like basket ball, they have to develop the same skill set as the athletic kids, and will of course get completely PWN'd -- Eds01 23:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Animal Ball

Isn't there a variant of Dodgeball called Animal Ball? I remember playing it before.

Wallball

I live in SE United States. I've played the game referred to in the variants list as fumbles but here it is invariably referred to as wallball.

Yes, I live and the NE US and I've heard of it. I only played it a couple of times a while ago, though, but I know I played it. It might not be what you're referring to, though. Because here we also call the game Suicide "wallball" sometimes, but not often.

Hannibal

Reversed this entry...not verifiable.

Out of School Leagues

I took out a lot of the fluff of whoever wrote this. It seemed motivated just to get his friends in a wiki and fluff up their abilities and such. I'm going to re-edit it so that it fits more in line with the description of the Lesley and Midwest dodgeball leagues above it. Please don't just use wiki to talk about how great your friends are. Cinquad

Painball

its like dodgeball,u need two teams of 5-10 people , 1 referee and a logic thinking.

first put two teams on each side of a tennis-field (without the court) then bring like 4-8 tennisballs and the game starts... first the teams get some time to make plans on how to strike on each other and use wise techniques to fool the enemy,then the techniques are fulfilled, but there's one exception... there's no elimination (keep receiving hits till you can't play anymore and give hits too) this game is not made to like brake bones but to cause bruises on the enemy (this way they get pain so much that they get off the field) the referee gets to time the game (from 1 min to incredible 10 mins)and some techniques are:

for example; there's john , karl, andrew executing the technique, andrew comes forward and does like he's going to throw the ball and suddendly john and karl comes throwing the balls.

or; one of the teammates falls down and does like he's in extreme pain (like broke a bone) and like when the others are distracted throw them with the balls.

and; andy grabs a ball and when he throws it , he lets it fall on purpose backwards and the charlie grabs the falling ball , andy moves adjacent and charlie throws the ball

in the half-time the teams gets some time to plan a new technique, and the game continues the player that gets the most bruises after the game , gets a cardboard-made medal with a purple heart on it. there is no winner....

Dodgeball Overseas

Does Dodgeball exist outside of the U.S.? I've talked to many people who have spent their childhood in Latin America, and none of them have heard of anything even similar.--200.44.6.157 20:07, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, Japanese kids play dodgeball a lot. Especially in elementary school, but even in junior high and high school. They generally use the rules referred to in the article as "Munkenai", with one ball.

Yep, I played Dodgeball all the time at my school in Canada. We mostly played a variant of what the article refers to as JailBall, which we called "Swedish Dodgeball". Arianna 14:58, 16 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am German an here we play this game even in tenth grade, depends on the gym teacher though :). Even when I served in the german army I played this game. It's rules are so easy yet it is amazingly fast and exhausting and most of all FUN. I wish I'd find some people to play it with me nowadays... Martin --217.17.197.166 14:08, 16 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Seen in Australia too; the rules described here seem to be American, and only recently gaining ground over here, but the basic idea of tagging players out with a thrown ball, calling it 'dodgeball', is probably pretty widespread. One particular primary school variation I remember involves the throwers standing in a circle around the dodgers. -- Perey 09:17, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

soak 'em

No mention of this name for the sport? C'mon, all you 30-year-olds!

Italic text== Anachronism ==

Under the "Controversy" section:

Dodgeball, when it emerged in about 1922, was touted as the "nerd's sport".

This seems unlikely, since in the nerd article, it's mentioned that the word "nerd" dates only from the 1950s. Loganberry (Talk) 01:59, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Team Ball

When I was growing up in San Diego (in the late 60's and early 70's) we played a variant of Dodgeball that was called "Team Ball". It was played on a vollyeball court (usually asphault). Each of two teams would occupy one of the areas inside the court (separated by the center line). Each team selected a "temp", who would remain outside the court, beyond the opponent's area; thus putting the players that are on the inside of the court between opposing forces (eg, temp-A [ team-B | team-A ] temp-B ). Temps were generally the most skilled players.

The game consists of "working" the ball (throw/catch) between the temps and the inside players in order to create a good shot. If a player is hit by a ball thrown by an opponent (whether intentional or not) he/she is out and has to move to where their temp is, thus reducing the number of players inside (and increasing the number of players on the outside). If a player catches a ball thrown by an opponent (or after it hits another player on his/her side), his/her team gains posession. If the ball goes outside the court, the temps on the side it went out on could retreive it.

Temps can choose to go "in" (inside the court) at any time, though they tend to wait until the numbers inside decrease (to give them room to work). In some variants there are two temps (if there are a lot of players), and in others temps get two "lives".

The game is over when one team loses all its players from the inside. We could generally play 2-3 games during recess.

I know that, for me, team ball was a lot more fun than standard dodgeball. It was very structured, like most team sports; yet was also very simple conceptually (important for kids in elementary school). And there was the strategy of "working" the ball; trying to intercept the other teams volleys, etc. Since we played it every day I'm surprised that it is not listed here.

Pony Express

Has anyone played this? It seems like it could be considered a variant of dodgeball.

Battleball

Has anyone else played this? it seems to be a very fun game.

Cleanup seriously needed

Some suggestions if anyone wants to help:

Not a single citation for the entire article.
The Variations section is much too long.
The Tactics section is a pretty clear violation of Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information.
The External links section needs a cleanup to comply with WP:EL.

Cheers --Pak21 08:31, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to see the rules for dodgeball. I'm sure it's instinctive for Americans but as an Aussie I don't know the rules. --Bren ^talk 13:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Origins

According to gullible.info , "The first game of dodge ball was played in 1493 in Belgum, where it was traditionally played dead rabbits." Any way or verifying this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jhknight (talk • contribs) 22:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

DoctorDoctor

This is a Saskachewan varient of the game it's the same as the original except you only win when you hit the other teams doctor you keep secret who your doctor is but the other team will eventually find out because the doctor pulls the wounded in alowing them to continue playing it's typically only played by younger kids. Jamhaw 16:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)jamhaw[reply]

Notable Players

Are these names actually real or made up, can anyone or the person who put them there reference the names? I tried some clean up, more is needed.--BaRiMzI 04:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i live in calgary and some schools call in doctor dodge ball but i kept calling it doctor mario becase i was always on the red team and i was always the doctor.... howa bout crazy ball? theres not eams just like 3 balls and the last one standing wins? there's basic moral rules like no head shots or cheap shots like if you're tying your shoe or something that's how i played it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.39.134 (talk) 00:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nerds Sport

This article claims "Dodgeball, when it emerged in about 1922, was touted as the "nerd's sport" " But looking at the article for Nerd it is stated that this term only dates back to 1950. If so, why does this page make the "nerd" claim? Deckchair 10:48, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Because you touch yourself at night