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"One Piece at a Time"

Considering "One Piece at a Time" wasn't a Cash-penned song, wouldn't it make more sense to credit the writer Wayne Kemp? Cash wrote enough of his own songs that crediting him here might seem to suggest that he coined the term "psychobilly."--24.9.8.61 22:53, 25 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Reverend Horton Heat

So, I notice Reverend Horton Heat listed here as a pyschobilly band, and I see a link to punkabilly under "See also". But see, I thought Rev. Horton Heat was a punkabilly band. Is punkabilly the same as pyschobilly? And then of course the current page on Rev. Horton Heat calls them rockabilly, which is less specific... Isomorphic 17:10, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Punkabilly

I've never heard of punkabilly before I've just heard of punk if thats what you mean but I think Rev. Horton Heat is Psychobilly you might of been confused because Psychobilly is Punk and Rockabilly put toghether

I'm pretty sure "punkabilly" is just an attempt to unnecessarily categorize an already very small genre. Inanechild

The Rev. Horton Heat is definitely psychobilly (they even had a song on their first album called 'Psychobilly Freakout') and the punkabilly article will be deleted. - 68.37.125.87 16:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think punkabilly is a subgenre of psychobilly. Being psychobilly a mix of rockabilly and punk, there are psychobilly songs that are more rockabilly influenced and others that have a deeper punk influence. The main difference, in my humble opinion, is the way the rhythm guitar plays. In punkabilly, rhythm guitar is played with raw punk style achords.. on the other side some psychobilly guitar players play rhythm parts with fingerpickin style, a more rockabilly approach.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.37.237.17 (talk) 11:58, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism of article

Horribly written by some scenester wanna be.

I noticed some inconsistencies and just plain untrue stuff in the original article myself, so I tried to fix it up. Inanechild

It's really bad. It reads like an 8th grade book report. I think it should be pulled altogether. There's no history, no facts, it's not well written, language could be better. LBCboyee 21:57, 29 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The guy that keeps removing my links doesn't accept email so I'll have to post my message to him here. Does it give you some great since of accomplishment to sit on here all day and policed this topic? You are pathetic and probably don't know the first thing about psychobilly music. Enjoy your page, I'll start my own.

Motorhead

Frogus - does anybody actually consider Motorhead a precursor to psychobilly?? In what respect did motorhead influence the style?

How could anyone like psychobilly and not love motorhead? It's strict entailment, extensionally, even if I can't justify it intentionally. Just look at their fans. Get fucked up and look at their fans. I don't know what conclusions it might lead you to, just do it. Wastoid 04:00, 17 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure, I wouldn't have considered them myself. I listed them because of their mention as a precursor in "Street Style," a book by Ted Polhemus which is a good authority on psychobilly. They're also mentioned as a precursor on the Wrecking Pit, one of the Internet's prominent psychobilly sites. (Link in external links) Inanechild

In the early years of the genre, the only link between Psychobilly and Motorhead would have been the Ace record label (Motorhead and the Meteors both released on ACE). Then Batmobile covered Ace of Spades in the mid 80's. The real link came in the early 90's with bands like Mad Sin (especially their Break The Rules lp) introducing a more "metal" sound to their music. So, not a precurser to the original Psychobilly scene/music, but certainly an influence today. Steelcap 23:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Considering Motorhead's relation to the pub rock scene, and considering that the first two Motorhead albums were more like a combination of pub rock and metal, I think they could be included as being influential.

PitBullFarm

Its NEEDS its own article. Please.

To all the people who keep adding Pitbull Farm to this article, if you think they are notable enough to warrant an article, feel free to start writing one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Starting_a_new_page Spylab 19:26, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, sorry for being a bother.

The Misfits

I dont see why The Misfits arent added as a HUGE influence in Psychobilly since they are one of the few bands back in the beginning of psychobilly that started with Horror

Yes, the Misfits had horror-related lyrics, but so did a whole bunch of other early punk bands. In terms of sound, they really had no effect. Their success and psychobilly happened at nearly the same time, so I don't think they can be credited as an early influence. Inanechild

I don't agree with you because the music that Misfits do has a name, HORROR PUNK, and I don't think that horror punk and psychobilly are the same. Thanks for the attention.

The Clarendon

After the demise of Klubfoot, it should not be forgotten that The Clarendon took its place in Hammersmith as a London psychobilly epicenter, regularly featuring the Guana Bats (who also should not be forgotten).

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Has anyone noticed the 1990's psychobilly is described as "a bit harder"? This is not only opinionated, but it also doesn't help to describe the differences at all! Can anyone be bothered to edit it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.78.150.119 (talk • contribs)

Can you be bothered? Notinasnaid 08:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Psychobilly/Punkabbilly are the same in your eyes

Man this is strange! on punkabilly is written:its a mix of punk and rockabilly and on psychobilly is written it's a mix of punk and rockabilly! the articels are the same and psychobilly is a fusion of horrorpunk and rockabilly! psychobilly bands have strong horrorpunk influences because they have horror lyrics like in horrorpunk and do wop influences and the same horror film influences! IS that right? Melodic Horror

You know, I have no idea. I removed links to "punkabilly" from this article because frankly the "punkabilly" article is extremely lacking. It's very small and pretty much says the exact same thing this article's opening paragraphs do. It seems to me that "punkabilly" is a word somebody made up that has the same connotations as psychobilly. Before seeing the word here I'd never heard "punkabilly" in my life. As to your other question, it seems debatable whether horrorpunk was a major influence on psychobilly, as the two subgenres seem to have formulated at around the same time. Certainly I think you could say that later psychobilly groups (Tiger Army, Nekromantix, etc.) were influenced to some degree by horrorpunk bands like the Misfits (Tiger Army covered "American Nightmare" on their Early Years EP and are closely tied to AFI, who are fans of and have covered the Misfits, so the connection is rather obvious). However, I don't think you could say the same for early psychobilly bands like The Cramps or The Meteors as they were contemporary with most horrorpunk bands (late '70s/early '80s) at a time when both genres were small enough and geographically separated enough not to notice each other. Well, maybe you could, but you'd have to cite a source. Just because both genres share a love of horror movies doesn't mean that one influenced the other. --IllaZilla 19:55, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But you can write: the later psychobilly bands have strong influnces of horrorpunk or you can write into the box of influnced styles for psychobilly punkrock, rockabilly and horrorpunk ok? Melodic Horror

I notice you did just that in the infobox and I tweaked it just a bit for capitalization (genre names aren't capitalized except at the beginning of a sentence as they aren't proper nouns). I think it's fine now. P.S. you don't have to leave identical comments both here and on my talk page. I have this page on my watchlist so we can keep the discussion in the relevant place. --IllaZilla 14:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wrecking?

"From the Meteors wikipedia page: They developed a loyal following known as "the Crazies, or Zorchmen" who invented their own dance style called "going mental," a cross between fighting, dancing and moshing. This would later be renamed "wrecking," and is still a staple of the psychobilly scene to this day."

Can someone include some information on this dance in the article and explain what exactly it is? The fact that it is "still a staple of the psychobilly scene to this day" seems rather important. --76.78.111.130 10:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I seriously doubt that one would be able to find a reference for that, though there is a style of moshing known as "wrecking" which is associated with psychobilly shows. (P.S. new topics go at the bottom of the page) --IllaZilla 14:45, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for moving it for me. So what exactly is the style of moshing? How does one "wreck"? --76.78.111.130 23:02, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well the only time I've really seen it, it was basically 2 guys sort of crossed arms and linked hands, then crouched in a seated position and spun themselves around faster and faster in the pit. It sort of looked like something kids would do on a playground, except the centrifugal force caused them to spin around uncontrollably and intentionally slam into people. Sort of like a wrecking ball, hence "wrecking." I don't know what other wrecking techniques there might be, but I had a pretty low opinion of it since it pretty much willfully hurt people who were anywhere near the pit. I've never seen it described in an article or a website, so I can't really think of a way to integrate it into the article. --IllaZilla 00:44, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

well, the way most people i know wreck involves a lot of elbow swinging and limbs all akimbo. watch the devil's smile live video. best example i can think of at the moment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.166.7.209 (talk) 20:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Psychobilly Link

To all the Wiki-police: The link I put on the Psychobilly topic isn't an advertisement! Baltimore Psychobilly is a RESOURCE for people interested in learning about this genre! If you took the time to check the link you would know that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwgreen65 (talk • contribs)

See WP:NOT#GUIDE -- we're not here to provide resources. We're here to write an encyclopedia. -- Gscshoyru (talk) 20:24, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]