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Interac (Japan)

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The company fails WP:ORG, and fails to show why it is notable. Delete J 03:43, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I just googled "Interac Japan" and found 614 hits. Significantly less than your 1, 220,000. I doubt you used quotation marks around your search terms, so google found anything with the letters *interac* and *Japan*. An example is an article on MECHANISM OF INHIBITION OF REVERSE TRANSCRIPTASE BY QUINONE ANTIBIOTICS from the Japan Journal of Antibiotics that has the word *interaction* in the article. The question then, is 614 hits enough for notability? DDD DDD (talk) 05:00, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but that's not a valid point - the company's name isn't "Interac Japan", so restricting the search to that phrase doesn't accurately reflect the number of hits. (As evidenced by the fact that the fourth hit under that combination is Dustinasby's Wikipedia talk page.) --Ckatzchatspy 05:59, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but keeping the search open to *interac japan* allows for any page with interacts, interacted, interactive and interaction to be included in the pages found. That makes the search terms too broad. It also includes pages with references to ATM/interac. Further, the second page I found on google when I search was a page for a child kidnapped by his mother and step-father, the latter who works with Interac, Japan. Quite unrelated. And so on. The google numbers are inflated and all of them are not related to the company as you/we would hope. I just don't think a quick google count is a guide to notability. My nickname "DDD DDD" gets 128,000 google hits. Time for a new wiki article, me thinks! Sorry Ckatz, you only get 9, 830. DDD DDD (talk) 11:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The same is true for any search term on Google. As editors, we have to use our discretion to sift through the results. Artificially limiting the search through the use of an inaccurate phrase such as "Interac Japan" is not the proper way to go. --Ckatzchatspy 11:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Likewise, we shouldn't artificially defend our argument, by saying there are 1,220,000 hits for Interac, a company that subcontracts out foreigners to schools, when we search interac japan. Because that is false.DDD DDD (talk) 12:23, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok you are not happy with number of ghits for "Interac Japan". Ok lets try "Interac Japan ALT" which yielded 65000 hits on Google. Interac has also been mentioned in atleast two published books, as seen here. This company is definitely notable. -- ¿Amar៛Talk to me/My edits 05:53, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mean to belabour the point but a google search is not the be all, end all. I also searched as you suggested, Interac+Japan+ALT, and there were indeed almost 65,000 hits. And indeed, many (not all) of those links were connected to Interac, the ALT outsourcing agency. Did you actually have a look at any of those 65,000 hits? They are not thousands and thousands of articles written about the company. Most of those links are to outdated viral job advertisements on blogs, lists, scraper sites, and so on, around the world. If anything, Interac is good at spreading the word. The gospel of the ALT according to Interac. I also only found one book reference (Gambatter means go for it...) but that was simply of list of places, companies, programmes that hire teachers. One of many. Hardly notable. Show me good, well-referenced published articles... ないと思う。DDD DDD (talk) 07:07, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - Employing over 1,000 foreign teachers in Japan alone makes this company pretty notable. --DAJF 05:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Speedy Keep- this is actually the fourth time the nominator has tried to delete this article, an overturned speedy, two contested prods, now this-I am now calling this what it is-extremely bad faith nom by GreenJoe, and I wonder what the agenda is. Chris 06:04, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete - So many foreigners work at Interac. I hardly see what is notable about that. As is, the article reads like the companies own webpage - an advertisement? Also, simply because GreenJoe has nominated it several times for deletion does NOT mean imply bad faith. It's quite possible that the article just does not belong here.DDD DDD 07:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete per nominator. I don't see how taking a contested prod to AfD is bad faith. It's the next logical step as I see it. Handschuh-talk to me 10:42, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The company seems to have an interesting history and possibly some interesting current ties. I found some links through a blog[1] but didn't add the blog itself to the article. The sources I added seem to me to be reasonable. I'd say this is a notable company. ---- Busy Stubber (talk) 17:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep Wikipedia has become a leading source of information partially because of the speed at which information (on just about anything) can be obtained. Someone with the goal of teaching English in Japan would likely want information on the various ways this can be achieved. The page sounds an awful lot like the company's website because that is where I got my information. Rather than deleting the entire work, why not improve the content? Honestly I'm getting tired of having to defend spreading access to information... It's truly enough to make one not want to contribute.--Dustin Asby (talk) 01:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC) Addendum: "Notable means 'worthy of being noted' or 'attracting notice.' It is not synonymous with 'fame' or 'importance.'"[reply]
Content improvement depends on you and me and other editors. Keep at it! :-) --Busy Stubber (talk) 02:32, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Uncertain The company sounds as if it may be notable, but i dont see a single real 3rd party source for it. DGG (talk) 04:20, 17 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete If the size of the company is large compared to other companies that are providing the same services in the same country, then it may merit an article. However, it is not a huge company in Japan when compared to others that provide similar services (unless you read it's own advertisements). If the determination is strictly on the size of the company, without comparison to other companies, then I would say even by this means, it doesn't merit an article.--GUIB Corrector (talk) 08:09, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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