Talk:List of domesticated animals

Missing Animals

What about fish as domesticated food animals: varieties of salmonoids including trout and tilapia meet the definition of domesticated with higher growth rate, reduced sensory perception and poor wild survival. Some bivalves also meet the definition - for mussels back to the Romans, and probably including now oysters but I think not scallops. Lobsters also probably not yet domesticated although is being started. In the pet section, I think carp and goldfish should be linked. Pat Heslop-Harrison 12:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

This page is missing a huge and important historical segment: the capturing, keeping and hunting with, raptors and others animals. Birds of prey including eagles, hawks and falcons have been used and kept for hunting for thousands of years. In South East Asia, otters have been trained to eat only cooked fish, and then used to catch fish for their masters. Hounds are used to hunt and dogs are used to herd sheep and cattle. Ferrets have been used to drive rabbits from their warrens. Perhaps a category of "Utility animals" could include these, as distinct from beasts of burden.

I disagree... these animals are not domesticated, but rather captive-bred. Check the definition of Domestication. - JRice 15:21, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

What about "goose" and "duck"?

-and silkworm?

I think all three would probably count. Add them in. --Sparky the Seventh Chaos 10:26, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)

ferret's aren't domesticated? At all? Perhaps more discretcion should be devoted to animals at the fringe, as I've found ferrets to domesticate as quickly as "domestic" cat breeds. And roughly equal in utility in urban america.--Choz 09:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Master list

I am wondering if the section from the article on Domestication called “Categories of domesticated organisms” should be moved into a separate master list that would be merged with the “List of domesticated animals,” the “List of domesticated plants” and the list of “Domesticated outsider taxa.” There are so many organisms with complete lifecycles under the care and direction of humans that the list in this article is starting to look like a full taxonomical chart of all living things. It is an interesting and valuable list, but I think that it should all be consolidated into one list that is organized into the three main categories of animals, plants, and outsider taxa. I also think that there should be some standardized way of specifying the degree of domestication for a species or a simple explanation of why it should be included on the list. The article on domestication should contain a clear link to this master list, but I think that the article and the master list should be separate projects. What do others think? --[[User:Jjhake|Jjhake (talk)]] 21:31, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Proposed reorganization

Following the scientific taxonomical order distracts from the subject of domestication. Would the following reorganization better reflect the subject of domestication?

I disagree, and would rather see the list taxonomically organized to make it easier to find the species I'm looking for. (Perhaps the best solution would be to offer both, though I hate duplicating data). Further, one animal (say, cattle) are often kept for multiple reasons... or the reason the animal was domesticated has changed over time. Thus, it makes more sense (to me) to have the list taxonomic, with each species followed by their 'uses'. I'm not strong enough in this opinion, however, to change the page... but count this as one vote in the other direction! JRice 15:17, 2005 Jun 2 (UTC)

I also think taxonomic organization would be more useful with duplicate list pages for fiber, meat, keratin-related uses (glue, carving material such as horn, medical uses and dietary supplements made from antler, etc.), feather, etc. Deirdre 00:49, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

This list includes any animals that have been domesticated by humans. Animals are organized by the original or primary purpose for which they were domesticated. In some cases, where an animal has more than one significant human use, it has been listed in more than one category.

• Food
  • Livestock
    • cow
    • cattle
    • goat
    • honey bee
    • pig
  • Fowl
    • duck
    • goose
    • guinea fowl
    • pigeon
    • turkey
    • chicken
  • Other human food sources
    • snails
    • guinea pig
    • dog
    • rabbit
  • Raised as food for other animals
    • nightcrawler (earthworm)
    • cricket
    • mealworm
• Labor
  • horse
  • llama
  • reindeer (domesticated caribou)
  • donkey
  • elephant
  • alpaca
  • camel
  • oxen
  • water buffalo
  • yak
• Commodities
  • Fiber (for textiles)
    • rabbit
    • sheep
    • silk worm
  • Leather or furs
    • cattle
  • Other commodities
    • pearl oyster
• Pets
  • rabbit
  • hamster
  • ferret
  • guinea pig
  • dog
  • cat
  • carp
  • goldfish
  • tilapia
• Research and science
  • dolphin
  • |mice
  • rat
  • fruit fly
  • silver fox
• Other purposes
  • infertile insects (for control of their wild fellows)
  • ladybug
  • leech

Any thoughts? --[[User:Jjhake|Jjhake (talk)]] 22:42, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Should carp be changed to koi because as far as im aware koi are domesticated carp?

I sense little, if any, NPOV in 2.4. Could this be revised into a less snide or less cynical tone? I' d like to revisit this article and find facts, rather than one person's philosophy about atypical pets. thx :) --Choz 08:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

References

There are currently none; please provide some. See Wikipedia:Cite sources. A reference is needed especially regarding claims as to which animals are most commonly used for scientific testing. Hairy Dude 17:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Merge to Domestication

I strongly support the move to Domestication If there is no opposition make the move. If someone wants to make the move let me know, I will clean up the links and redirects. Jeepday 01:43, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

There is clearly a difference between the meaning of the phrases "domestic animal" and a "domesticated animal". Yes, they come from the same root word but "domestic" can imply that a relation to household matters. I think I can my point clearer by using the immortal words of Colin Grigson "How many cows have you seen sitting next to the fire, nestling over slippers?" 195.153.45.54 (talk) 11:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Food

Is there a need to distinguish between animals raised as food and domesticated animals which produce food? IE, the difference between cows/pigs, etc., and honeybees? Also, many of these animals have other uses than food - cattle provide milk and beef, but also leather for clothing and other uses. Bees produce honey, but they also produce the nutritional supplement royal jelly, and are also often kept as an aid to agriculture as pollinators. Isn't it a bit simplistic to lump all these under the category "Food"? Applejuicefool 18:35, 9 May 2007 (UTC)