Talk:Master chief petty officer

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Does anyone know exactly how many months/years are required at Senior Chief before they're eligible to go for Master Chief? I have no idea. - Wguynes 04:41, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

Here are the Time In Rate (TIR) Requirements for U.S. Navy Enlisted Advancements (given in months):

SR to SA = 9 (w/No exam); SA to SN = 9 (w/No exam); SN to PO3 = 6; PO3 to PO2 = 12; PO2 to PO1 = 36*; PO1 to CPO = 36*; CPO to SCPO = 36 (w/No exam); SCPO to MCPO = 36 (w/No exam). *May be waived up to 1 year for Early Promotes (EP's) for advancement to PO1 or CPO only. Source = U.S. Navy Advancement Center

Based upon educational background, work background or incentives for advanced training, certain recruits may enter the Navy as SA or SN.

I used the insignia from the insignia table page. They're rather small and lacking in detail for use here, but better than nothing. If anyone finds higher quality, larger, and consistent-looking insignia for all the navy enlisted, please feel free to replace these. I think leaving the table page as the small ones is best, however, due to server load. - Wguynes 04:41, Mar 27, 2004 (UTC)

The MCPN insignia is incorrect. It should be all gold with a gold star as specialty mark. Mtnerd 22:06, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)
- That reflects the change back in the late 1990s where MCPOs in the Command Master Chief communities had their ratings changed to CMD (command) with a star as the rating symbol. This the ship's CMC actually has a rate of CMDCM.

Someone with an IP of 61.68.72.133 had reversed and confused a few things that I had changed (I hadn't registered yet, so all the info I added was under my IP address). Contrary to what he changed, the chief's level still follows the rating in abbreviations (ie, MMCM, vice the incorrect MCMM). I left the navy less than a year ago, and still work closely with ship's force on a daily basis. That's the way it was when I left, and I can assure you, that it's still the way it is. Izuko 13:33, Jul 25, 2005 (EST)

Halo reference

I think the Halo reference to John-117 should be moved - perhaps in italics at the very top or under a horizontal rule at the bottom. LockeShocke 21:18, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)

Why? It's a usage of the rank in popular culture. -- Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason 18:11, 2004 Dec 25 (UTC)

Inverted Stars

Does anybody know why the stars on top of the fouled anchor are inverted? I understand the reference to admiral stars.-thanks

It's done the same way as the star on a Line Officer's sleeve.

Izuko 20:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The actual reason why the stars seem inverted is that they follow the chevrons on the Chief, Senior Chief, and Master Chief's insignia badges. As well they also represent the star on a Line Officer's sleeve.

"Blueshirts?"

I've heard them called "whitehats" a lot more frequently, in reference to the Dixie Cup. BulldogPete 14:39, 6 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've never been a "whitehate," (though I've worn them), but I was a blueshirt for ten years. Consider blueshirt to be the modern equivalent of a bluejacket (you know, the infamous manual). Izuko 21:26, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Blueshirt is correct. I've also updated the intro. The color of the crow (the eagle) on the rank/rate insignia does not change -- it is always silver. Only the chevrons change color to reflect good conduct.