Talk:Asshole

your dad is one

rationale

Sometimes I feel like saying this to people who are loudly shifting the blame, like that drunk guy on BART who was ranting about some woman who didn't treat him like he wanted to be treated. On the other hand, this is a self-deprecating question that one may apply to oneself all too often, if one is chronically melancholy. Strange that the human society has room for these opposites: Them that say, "It's all, always, all my fault," and them what says "It's anyone's-but-mine fault!" Two very different ways of being in the center of the universe. There are probably lots of ways of being in the happy middle on this one.

That's a perfect description of a Narcissist. DariuszT 19:42, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A Motto.

Your irritability is my chardonnay.

See also: Talk: Decadence: The Essence of Decadence.

Talk: Evil.

Asshat?

In my experiences, I've always foud the word "assclown to be a lot more popular than "asshat". Tunney 02:24, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Among fans of American professional wrestling (mainly WWE) assclown has become extremely popular due to Chris Jericho's use of the word in his promos. Darryl Hamlin 07:09, 29 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It'd be better if the usr/bin/w00t link actually went to a strip which used the word "asshat".

"Asshat" may have an origin (or at least a source of popularization) in dialogue from the Coen brothers' film Raising Arizona (1987), where Gayle says (during a robbery of a "hayseed bak"): "Anyone caught bipedal in five where's his ass for a hat!" Or maybe I just like the trivia. "Assclown" also has significant film usage; in Office Space (1999), Michael Bolton (a character, computer programmer) uses it to describe the pop singer with the same name (if I remember correctly). Brent 14:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC

English origin?

"This word is found in colloquial speech in a number of cultures (in both English and in direct translation to other languages)" implies that it originated in English, and in other languages is a mere "translation" (loanword). No evidence supports that. According to de:Arschloch, the German and English words seem to be coetaneous (early Middle Ages). Removed the "translation" part.--84.188.133.222 15:38, 22 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

On the subject of ass vs arse, would it be logical to assume 'arse' came about through hypercorrection in non-rhotic speakers?

If we didn't know better, that would be plausible enough. But we do know better. Arse came first and has cognates in other indo-European languages. It's worth noting ass and arse are not pronounced the same by most British speakers of English, be they non-rhotic or not. The first usually has a short vowel, the second a long one. In the north of England, of course, speakers may use a short vowel in both. Scots tend not to make such distinctions of length, but then Scots tend to be rhotic too, so they distinguish. I'd guess (and I'm being lazy and not looking this up now) that the similarity of arse and ass led the second to be used euphemistically for the first, but I might be wrong. Either way, the /r/ is no hypercorrection. garik 22:28, 18 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

>>> I made a page on the word Asshat, but wikipedia is gay and made me think it actually existed. I sent a link to my friend and he was directed to asshole. Now that I am signed it, it goes to asshole to. Fuck you wikipedia. Lick my ass..hat. <<<

^^ Uncalled for, but funny ^^

I would be

I would probably top that list, I am all for it. MKGrissmer

asshat forum bit

Does anyone have any info on why the behaviour of minor denizens of a Lost forum in a single thread is in any way encyclopaedic and worth including in this article? User:MeSlapMeThrowRock's only edits on Wikipedia so far are to continuously re-insert, in one way or another, information about this "infamous" board with a pointer to the (rather juvenile) thread as his only evidence for why it's notable. What's so special about these guys? fuddlemark (fuddle me!) 16:28, 12 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

→== Asshole Game == While cute, this paragraph has nothing to do with any attempt to formally define asshat. --71.131.75.178 00:49, 19 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A more modern cultural definition is the (traditionally college-based) drinking game Asshole. It requires simply a deck of cards and for each error or break in rules, players must take a sip of their drink. Typically, players are ranked and any player who wins three times in a row (earning the title of "President" three times) gets to make a new, temporary rule. Games may get out of hand when players of higher rank force lower ranks to drink at their whim for any reason.

Assclown

Does it make sense for assclown to redirect here? To me they are very different concepts. Opinions? -Quasipalm 18:38, 31 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

THIS is just about the word, not the actual thing

What's this got to do with asshole? There are no pictures of assholes or description of the composite make up. Nothing about the fixed assets or the current assets of the asshole —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.137.123.207 (talk • contribs).

For the body part, see Anus. I thought this was clear from the first line of the article. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 21:39, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Disambiguation

Doesn't the bit at the top seem like a disambiguation page? Can someone make one of those? 66.225.69.254 13:50, 13 July 2006 (UTC)Lostcatholic[reply]

ROFL

Anyone else find it funny that this article has been nominated for cleanup? Lick it. There are no images for this article. I propose this image - http://matte0.altervista.org/immagini/asshole.jpeg

o_0 I'm scarred for life...

That is an exceptionally inaccurate portrayal of the Sahara. The layout of that image also leads me to believe that the author has something against Poland.

; ) 165.146.133.251 00:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Haha funny guy. MrBobla 09:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

For more, please see: http://shootingmessengers.blogspot.com/2006/06/yet-another-box-o-truth-retort.html

I have an idea for an image. Use a picture of some jerk flipping the bird. Or a photo of someone parked in 4 parking spaces or parked across 2 or more spaces. Or use a photo of Fred Phelps.

75.191.135.245 (talk) 12:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Additional meaning for Asshat

Asshat - a unit vector in the ass direction —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SnakeJG (talk • contribs) 20:23, 11 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Asshat originated in Battlefield 1942, due to helmets in the shape of buttocks on the Axis side.

By the way, in NO way shape or form did this word or "pwn" or "own" or "frag" originate in Warcraft. Warcraft in itself is unoriginal, just as Starcraft is, both which ideas were stripped from Warhammer and Warhammer 40,000. Blizzard openly admits to this. Just decided to put this out there since it refers to internet slang as well. --Combatwolf 07:42, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For starters? Asshat did not originate in Battlefield 1942. I saw it used years before BF1942 even came onto the drawing board. Secondly; don't trash Warcraft and Starcraft because they are 'unoriginal' when your vaunted Warhammer games are just as bad. Warhammer is but a rip-off of Tolkien, who is but a rip-off of mythology. WH40K is but a rip-off of Alien and other sci-fi crap. Thirdly? Sign properly, or not at all.

About the only thing you managed to get right is the fact that "pwn", "own" and "frag" did not originate with Warcraft. --–Xoid 07:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not a pleonasm

Removed description of 'asshole' as a pleonasm -- 'arse' has never meant 'anus' -- according to the OED, the word has been used since Anglo-Saxon times to refer to ' The fundament, buttocks, posteriors, or rump of an animal.' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gasala (talk • contribs) 05:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC).[reply]

I agree. When you say "Look at that girls ass", you're not refering to her anus.66.167.39.208 17:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Explain This?

A person is called an asshole when they are actually ignorant and in the dark (like the anal ring is) and yet very loud (like the real "asshole" can be at times due to gastrointestinal turbulence). The loudness of the person is often embarrassing (due to the ignorance) and cause for cringing behavior for the audience

Ignorant and in the dark with an analogy/metaphor for the real anus seems a little silly. Furthermore I don't see the connection with the very loud part either. I understand where this definition is going but there is a much simpler way to say the same thing!

e.g: An individual who is shunned by others for their actions, comments or thoughts.

hm yes, i dont agree with that description, when i call someone an asshole, i really dont like to think about the anal ring -.o

Tags & Info

I added the necessary tags to this page including the vandalism tag, also there should be some more historical information added to give a deeper and more verifiable account to help backup all the original research presented and there needs to be some verifiable evidence. A list of sources would be a good start.

There also needs to be a deeper discussion about the whole topic including semantics. If there is an expert on the subject who can comment it would be greatly appreciated!

"popularized by Something Awful"

I see this in a lot of articles, and there are never any cites. 71.131.176.199 00:26, 25 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed this too... I most definitely heard the phrase before the comic came out (apparently 1999) and I am not even really familiar with the comic. Would it really be a blow to the article to simply remove this sentence? 66.28.71.162 15:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gender

Does the gender of a person who is referred to as an asshole matter, i.e., does it have to be a male. Because someone told me that people never call women assholes, is this correct. --198.51.130.254 (talk) 03:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Asshat? Trendier?

Since when? Ass-hat turns up once in a quote search on IMDB, where as asshole weighs in at more than a 100 results. Come to think of it, whereas asshole has continuing relevance cred as one of the Dirty Seven, I can't find a damn thing establishing asshat's pop culture cred. --Rev Prez (talk) 08:58, 15 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]