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Alexander Zinovyev Quote

Could it be that the quote at the end of this article was translated by babelfish? It barely makes sense.

Red Plum

First sentence

The first sentence of this article doesn't make any sense to me. Can someone who knows more about this than I fix it? — Timwi 11:58, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Law on Cooperatives - when?

Could it be stated once forever when The Law on Cooperatives was enacted? In 1987 or 1988? Quick googling shown both dates (though 1987 more often). Pavel Vozenilek 01:51, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

What is the "Right wing"?

Right wing is such an ambiguous term, it's meaning changes with current government. But the clause it mentioned is not tied to some particualr time. I guess here it means Communist conservatives or something, but I thouth today it means free-market liberalism, see Union of Right ForcesGnomz007(?) 22:38, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It is very specific term related to communist parties that should have explaining article. Pavel Vozenilek 23:49, 17 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

the card system

How about mention of the card system - not sure what is the English for it - but during Perestroika the most notable thing were limits on all food. You had to get some fixed number of "cards" every month (карточки) and could buy only the amount of meat/fruit/vodka how many card-tokens you had left. Gnomz007(?) 00:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Rations" is the English word —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nik42 (talk • contribs) 04:12, 19 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Rationing is the English term for the system generally. Multitran translates rationing in several ways, one of which is
"карточная система рационирование" (literally, "the card system for rationing"; per babelfish and guessing) --Jtir 18:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"eviscerate"?

Somehow, I don't think the author meant "eviscerate". What could he really have meant?

Conspiracy theories

I have no doubt that conspiracy theories exist over the Gorbachev reforms, and while it is nice that a Soviet emigre claims "with 94% accuracy" to have predicted the fall of the Soviet Union, I don't really think it has a place in this article. Golitsyn also claimed that this was a long-term plan for the Soviet Union to pretend to disintegrate in order to defeat the USA, and there does not seem to be much evidence for it to date. Also, if he is such a major factor in perestroika, I find it interesting that the Russian-language article has not bothered with a conspiracy theory (but maybe is is because of a conspriacy)! I have removed this section.

Could it be replaced by a summary of perestroika and its effects? I would be interested to see an historical comparison between perestroika and the Deng Xiaoping economic reforms in China: why the latter worked (without democratic reforms) while the former failed (with democratic reforms).

Konchevnik81 11:46, 20 December 2006 (UTC)Konchevnik81[reply]

OK, I took the liberty of adding those sections myself. Everyone, please feel free to add and edit them to bring them up to standard. Konchevnik81 13:47, 20 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Unforeseen results of reform"

This section is weak... Citations MUST be added since it sounds far too much like conjecture or "original research". Also, importantly, it does not distinguish clearly between the Gorbachev period and post-Gorbachev. This is critical since many more far-reaching reforms took place in 1991 and post-1991, whilst this article seems to imply that Perestroika has been the only reform and is therefore the only source of the economic failures in the current states of the former USSR. 82.22.74.68 09:48, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Soviet GDP had declined by 17 percent

Since when. Since 1985? Someone who knows please tell it

--194.251.240.116 (talk) 14:02, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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