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We're So Starving

It was confirmed that a song with its lyrics would be the first song on the album and later that the song itself would be on the album.Parralax (talk) 00:42, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We know that, and guys the joke was how soft the lyrics, melody, and mood of the song is. Knight Whitefire (talk) 00:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

I suggest moving the page to "Pretty Odd" (without the periods/full stops. There is no reason to include such punctuation in the album name, even the artwork does not show it. Furthermore, albums such as Nimrod (album) and Warning (Green Day album), which are typeset as nimrod. and Warning: are not given these extra characters. Also, this will prevent confusion and poor grammar usage when the name is used mid-sentence, for example:

The new album Pretty. Odd." will be released....
The new album Pretty Odd will be released....

Nouse4aname (talk) 11:20, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support Warrior4321 23:11, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Does not support Knight Whitefire (talk) 00:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC) The album's name is Pretty. Odd., no matter what the cover says Panic even said it was with the periods so there won't be another mix up like with their band name. However I would like to suggest moving the page to it's actual name Pretty. Oddd. and not Preety Odd.[reply]
No opinion, but the article was at Preety Odd, which I'm going to assume was a typo. Please don't do cut-and-paste moves. The article and talk page histories are back together here. Gimmetrow 02:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do not support, I agree with what Knight Whitefire said. It would make more sense to suggest changing the "nimrod." and "Warning:" article titles. --The Experimental Film (talk) 02:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do not support I agree with the points made by Knight Whitefire and The Experimental Film. Parralax (talk) 02:35, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Does not support Why? It's all been said already. MagZness (talk) 04:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. It seems people do not understand. The nimrod and Warning article titles were changed from their stylistic form, to a non-stylised form, as this is an encyclopedia. There is no need for the full stops - see MOS:TM "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization". Pretty. Odd. is not standard English, especially when in the middle of a sentence; Pretty Odd is. Furthermore, why is the name Pretty. Oddd with three d's? Nouse4aname (talk) 08:54, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. In this case I dont think the style guidelines are being violated. "Pretty odd" (i.e. "quite unusual") has a different meaning from "Pretty. Odd.", which is two one word sentences (i.e. "Attractive. Unusual."). The idea of the guidelines is not to change the meaning of titles. It will mean some awkwardness when writing, but a good editor whould be able to compensate. Whydontyoucallme dantheman (talk) 21:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough, I understand that, but the fact remains that it is not written with the periods on the album artwork....Nouse4aname (talk) 08:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. TJ Spyke 09:02, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, but what's not to say that the folding of the album's banner backwords between the words isn't to illustrate the periods without distracting from the album art. Either that or it could be to pay tribute to old style posters, banners, etc that used the folding of an banner in an image to represent the literary device of a period and Panic is simply paying tribute, afterall the image does look very much antique and their music reflects this. Knight Whitefire (talk) 09:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also as Whydontyoucallme dantheman so very well put, the words Pretty and Odd are both adjectives so if you were to remove the periods from the album title you would be changing the meaning of the album from Attractive. Unusual. to a different meaning in which the adjective Pretty affects the adjective Odd. This would also also change the meaning of Pretty from Attractive to another one of it's meanings Moderately, in which case the meaning of the album would be Moderately Unusual. Knight Whitefire (talk) 09:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And what is the official meaning? They say they wrote it that way because they liked the look...that says nothing about the intended meaning. 131.251.33.62 (talk) 14:00, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The official meaning is Attractive. Ususual. that's also why they included the periods in it's name and why they are selling it as Pretty. Odd. and not Pretty Odd, MTV did a whole article about this actually. Knight Whitefire (talk) 15:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"The official meaning is Attractive. Ususual." source please... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nouse4aname (talk • contribs) 17:09, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know why they called the album what they did, because i do not know the band or their music. Were they deliberatly trying for a certain meaning? Or only getting attention by naming it with two sentences instead of the usual one? But I can confirm that according to their record company (as repeated at a reliable source, MTV) the albums name is "Pretty. Odd.": "Panic At The Disco Know Punctuation Better Than They Think." The manual of style discourages punctuation which is only decorative, but for this album it would also seem to be grammatically correct. Whydontyoucallme dantheman (talk) 19:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks for the source. I withdraw my proposition to move the page in that case. (Not sure if I need to state this anywhere). Still damn annoying to write mid-sentence though! Nouse4aname (talk) 20:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. The title is actually two seperate one word sentences and therefore the title is correct. ≈ Maurauth ^(Ravenor) 18:07, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Song title changes

As we speak, song titles are being discovered I will reference their locations if the song titles are changed from the magazine review one —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.116.117.240 (talk) 23:33, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah i see where you getting them from now but how do you know which songs are replacing which?Parralax (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

O wait nevermind i see it now well keep up the good workParralax (talk) 23:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All of the official song titles can be seen here: http://www.patdonline.com/images/other/finalchallenge.jpg. How should we cite this...? --The Experimental Film (talk) 05:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]