Talk:Dragonball Evolution

Headlines

Comics2Film is a decent resource that accumulates headlines about the film, so check there often to incorporate new information into the article! —Erik (talk • contrib) - 16:36, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

There is a guy who blogs all the news he finds over on IGN: McKlydes Dragonball Live Action Movie Blog. He seems to get the info a little faster.--Funkamatic (talk) 01:14, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Plot details

First off, big thanks to whoever created this article. Now, I heard some stuff about the plot of this movie, but I'm not sure if it's just rumours. Goku is in high school apparently and gets bullied, until he discovers his true powers and defeats Piccolo. I will research this and see if it's actually true, then put it on the article, citing my sources. Also, I have seen one or two screenshots from on-set. Would I be able to place these onto the article as they display Justin Chatwin dressed as and in character as Goku? 87.102.14.58 (talk) 20:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd wait for an official photo of Chatwin in character, and I'd only include it in this article (not the character's, which is acceptable) until there is information focusing on the modernization of the costumes. Please be aware of rumours too, which are by nature often started by random bloggers. Thus far, the reliable trades have only detailed Piccolo and Bulma's roles. Alientraveller (talk) 20:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Citations of information you've heard would be welcome, but I have a feeling that they probably will not have come from reliable sources at this point. As for images, non-free images need to comply with the criteria found at WP:NFC, and the particular criteria that we frequently encounter with film articles is significance. The image itself has to be significant or show something in it that is significant. When I say significant, I mean that it needs to be independently verifiable. Anyone can say that a picture of Justin Chatwin is significant, and anyone can respond that it isn't. Thus, with independent verifiability, the significance is incontrovertible. It's generally unlikely for articles on upcoming films to easily have such non-free images due to the limit of information available. You may want to take a look at The Dark Knight (film) to see how non-free images have been used so far in the article body, or Fight Club (film) for an older example of how non-free images are significantly used. By the way, do you have a registered account? If you don't, it might be beneficial -- click to see why. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:18, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'd rather wait then and see if an official image from the movie itself emerges rather than just post a picture from on-se then. Defunct Lies (talk) 15:48, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

Speaking of Piccolo...Wouldn't the "evil" Piccolo actually be "Demon King Piccolo"? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.207.60.27 (talk) 02:01, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Depends on how they're condensing his story for the purpose of the film. Every report thus far just calls him Piccolo, and so shall we. Alientraveller (talk) 10:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Fan reaction

Is it possible, that no one added something like "Fan objection" or, "most of fans consider this as "ruining DB"", I mean, I don't want to add those titles litterally, but I think this is almost DB parody...it is so bad to me, it is so bad to most of the fans...so at least it would be fair to add just a little negativism in this whole article...Of course, in some polite and appropriate way. What you say?--VEGETA_DTX (talk) 19:30, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I knew it was soon before someone asked this. This movie has barely been covered in the media (as its existence was a major surprise), so there's been no time for reliable sources to discuss Goku's hair or the lack of Krillin, let alone for the filmmakers to acknowledge these deviations. When they arrive, we'll add them. Alientraveller (talk) 19:37, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict again!) We would need to verify such perspectives through reliable sources. I imagine at this point, there may be complaints on DB forums and so forth, but we can't cite these directly. (Anyone can write in forums and blogs, and it's a poor rule of thumb to determine the mindset of a fan base.) A reliable source making that independent perspective, such as The New York Times reporting that on the Internet DB fans are upset at the interpretation of the live-action film adaptation, would be appropriate. I think it's too early at this stage for such reliable sources to be available. If you can provide some, great, but it's unlikely so early in production. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 19:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I agree. But I really wonder, why no one reported that yet...I never liked statistics, nor I believe in objective opinion, but I think this is far too obvious...--VEGETA_DTX (talk) 20:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, don't worry. We'll get some articles eventually: I think only one newspaper ever covered the mixed fan reaction to Transformers before it came out, which was ages before the DVD covered the fans' dislike of Optimus' flames and Megatron's face. Alientraveller (talk) 20:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

(edit conflict -- grr, Alien) In my experience, future films don't get much coverage until it's closer to the release date. Considering that this will likely be a pretty big film, there will be more than enough coverage about the film's relation to the DB universe. Wikipedia's rule of thumb is to verify with reliable sources as anyone can say anything about any topic and surely we can't report all that. That's how the scope is narrowed. If the dissent by the fan base is large enough, then I'm sure it'll be reported. We have over a year to go, so we just have to play the waiting game in the meantime. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 20:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm a Dragonball fan and have been for several years, yet I don't see this as a parody as of yet. There is basically no way to determine what the outcome of this movie will be like until the movie is released. That's like saying Resident Evil should have a fan objection section, or maybe even Hitman, I was a fan of both of these games, yet I felt the movies seemed like parodies. I personally think it would be best to just wait until the movie is released and add this "fan objection" into a Reaction or Reception section. Agreed? Defunct Lies (talk) 00:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I would say that I am as big a dragon ball fan as anyone, and I am really looking forward to this. I think it has great potential. What does this have to do with this discussion? I don't understand why -what the fanbase thinks of the film- would have any relevance before they even know what it was going to be like. I say no "fanbase reaction section" until the film has had full release and a proper and statistically correct study has been done and reported to cite. There is no point in telling people coming here trying to find out what the film is about that the fans think it may suck. I guess it boils down to if and when someone reports on it (like already stated).--Funkamatic (talk) 01:09, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. Just because SOME people may not accept the idea of the movie doesn't mean every single person looking forward to it does. Just like any other movie, we have to wait until it comes out. Saying "Fans think it sucks because this character wasn't in" or "they look nothing like their anime counter-part" means nothing, because others will not care and will accept the movie for what it DOES show. Remember Transformers? People that was going to be utter fail, and look at how many fans enjoyed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goten X (talk • contribs) 20:46, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The pint is fan reaction on DBZ live action movie idea by it self, and I know so many fans who don't like that idea, despites of castlist or producer. I am personally against DBZ live action almost in every possible way, but now that I saw that horrible castlist and story, anything is better than Hollywood's ruining...

I know we don't have even one evidence like "The New York Times" mentioned up there, but if we get it we should definitely post that.--VEGETA_DTX (talk) 10:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I think, by now, the entire internet is aware of your ingrained hatred of the very concept of a live action Dragonball movie. And you may very well know a lot of fans who are against the entire idea. I do as well. But I also know a lot of fans that are quite looking forward to the movie, myself included. So thre's nothing really to add for fan reaction other than the normal "Some people think it'll be good, others think it'll suck" line.Xyex (talk) 10:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok ok, but I'm still giving my best and I won't give up till the end, and I don't regret any of my acts, cuz everything is worth of trying.--VEGETA_DTX (talk) 18:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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I think fan reaction should be saved until it has been released, talking about peoples opinions based on rumors and conjecture is pointless. Even so there many fans who think It will work. I mean the first x men and transformers films worked because the took the good and extracted the crap that would not work cinematically, and a lot of fans seem to think that is the only to make a dragonball film work, heck akira korusawa said something to that point a few years back in an interview. 00:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Mai

Is there any confirmation that Eriko Tamura ("Mai"'s actress) will be playing the character from the manga/anime, or a new character altogether (with the same name)? I read an article that said Mai was a shape-shifting woman that would change into Chi-Chi to trick Goku (about what wasn't shown). If I can find that article, I'll link it right away, but I just want to know if Eriko is really going to play Mai from Dragon Ball. If not, or if no confirmation is shown I think it would be better to not have her name linking to the summary for her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goten X (talk • contribs) 20:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I say keep, as there will always be major changes in the transistion to film. Alientraveller (talk) 20:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

KEEP: they added the shape shifting as kind of a tribute or sudo-inclusion of puar/oolong. Eriko Tamura probably looks more like Mai than any other character in the manga.--Funkamatic (talk) 20:14, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

... Tribute? Unless you can cite that, that's just some silly guess. Goten X (talk) 18:58, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Look dude, unless you can cite that every character announced for this film is specifically based on their manga counterparts you don't make any sense. While it's ridiculous that Mai in the movie is not based on Mai from the manga, if you can find a citation saying she's not, change away. Is it your point that because she can shape-shift she's not the same character? that doesn't make sense either. Under that logic you would have to say that because the film starts in high school, that's different so it can't be Dragon Ball, or because the anime isn't drawn by Akira Toriyama, it isn't really Dragon Ball.--Funkamatic (talk) 23:03, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

What the hell are you talking about? All I said was the same name does not exactly mean it's the same person. You have no proof to prove that it is Mai from Dragon Ball, so why link it to her bio when it's possibly not her? It was a suggestion, and it has been a month since I brought the subject up, and since no one found any proof. Also, your analogy is horrible and makes no sense. But since you all don't want to listen, I took the time to find my source, here. Happy? Goten X (talk) 04:00, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

No. Your source does not state that she is an original character.--189.47.241.14 (talk) 07:14, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[...] she's a martial arts expert and Lord Piccolo's chief enforcer. Crafty and quick thinking, Mai uses her ability to shapeshift near the climax of the movie and takes on the form of Chi Chi, a young martial arts expert who's romantically involved with Goku and later saves Piccolo from Master Roshi's curse [...] <-- What? That's Emperor Pilaf's Mai? Huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goten X (talk • contribs) 17:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you understand, it doesn't matter if she actually is a new character or not, your citation has to specifically state that she is a new character. Eriko herself claims to be honored to play a character that Akira Toriyama created.--Funkamatic (talk) 22:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Character Bios

This article gives information written by the director for several characters from October. It doesn't have any information about Teto, unfortunately but it is an interesting read and I was wondering if anyone was up to sliding some of the information to the article. Goten X (talk) 04:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand, where does it say that this info was written by James Wong?--Funkamatic (talk) 15:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Teaser Trailer / Trailer?

Some kid on YouTube said it was going to be shown before Jumper. When asked, he said it was confirmed on FOX's site. I never found it, but it would make sense to show a trailer during Jumper, a big movie coming out this month which is also done by FOX. So does anyone really know, or will I just have to wait the 4 days? 'Cause if it shows, it should be added to the article that the teaser premiered before Jumper + add a link to the trailer. Ladder4321 (talk) 05:39, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

"Some kid on YouTube" probably isn't the best person to ask. If anything, only time will tell it a teaser does show up before Jumper. -- bulletproof ^3:16 06:01, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Well, I looked it up some more and found out that it's also being reported on some Spanish site. Some people in forums say that the first teaser will appear also. I think it seems likely. We'll just have to wait for Jumper to premiere. Ladder4321 (talk) 19:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

My Mother-In-Law owns a movie theater and she'll know for sure when and where it comes out (unless she doesn't get the film the trailer premiers on). I'll ask her to call when she gets the trailer in (they come separate from the film and are attached when building it) and I'll report back here.--Funkamatic (talk) 02:32, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Not all trailers come separate. Certain trailers (take Cloverfield on Transformers) come attached and cannot be taken off that movie. Trailers that come separate can be attached to any film. The trailer will most likely be available online before they are received at the theater.

Nothing. My brother saw it and told me nothing showed for Dragonball. Dang, I really wanted to see a trailer. *sigh*...*waits* Ladder4321 (talk) 09:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Speculation on an intended Dragonball Z trilogy if Dragonball succeeds?

Is there any speculation or report that the studios or director would be interested in a DBZ film (trilogy most likely) if Dragonabll makes a substantial amount in the box office? Or actors willing to reprise their rolls?

-G —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.117.158.83 (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

It's highly likely, but no official reports have been made yet. This movie is so damn secretive. Alientraveller (talk) 16:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

This doesn't make sense. Why do you think they started with Dragon Ball? When you make a movie about one of the most popular things ever, you think about money. 5 movies: DB, Vegeta, Frieza, Cell, Buu. And to answer the question, yes, if you read some the the website reporting the movie, there are some extras and stunt doubles talking about their contracts for multiple films.--Funkamatic (talk) 02:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you link me those who said they've signed on for sequels? Alientraveller (talk) 10:54, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I've found one great argument for prosecute mwahahaha! In the same time it will answer why they started with DB: FOX "acquired rights for DBZ"(in which I also strongly doubt!) NOT FOR DB!!! remember? and yet they're making DB, and probably planing to do even GT...ooooooh nooo they wont....--VEGETA_DTX (talk) 18:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)