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Arundhati bakshi 12:14, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sound samples

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Thanks for helping out in recording sound samples, but try to avoid making judgement about what dialects you consider to be neutral. You should only replace sound files if they're as bizarre as what Jens recorded. Also, when uploading recordings, use the standard format sv-name_of_file.ogg or we'll just wind up with a lot of similarly named duplicates.

If you want to replace a sound file, use the same file name and overwrite it instead. The old recording will still be in the edit history, so don't worry about data loss. Contacting the uploader of the original sound is also recommended.

Peter Isotalo 14:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the tip, I was a little confused when it came to naming my files. In my opinion, your original recording suits the article nicely, and my own recording was an attempt to satisfy those (like Jens) who weren't fond of the Stockholmish tone. I have no intention of changing that file anymore, but in response to Talk:Sweden#Pronunciation, I've had many people telling me that they had a hard time placing me in a specific area of Sweden with respect to my accent. One could argue that this would, in a sense, make it more neutral. I'm actually from Halland, not Norrland.
User:Herr_apa 23:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]

Jens' anti-Stockholm prejudices are his own to deal with. They shouldn't influence article content so easily. Variation is never bad and I don't think your geographically uncertain dialect is a problem. The problem is that people who speak prestige variants of Swedish (i.e. based on what's spoken around Stockholm) actually believe that they are neutral when they're really every bit as obvious as someone from Malmö or Göteborg. I have course mates raised in the Stockholm region who refuse to call their own speech stockholmska, even if they no qualms about describing the speech of someone from Gothenburg as göteborska. There's also the problem of the wide-spread belief that the Swedish most commonly spoken in TV and radio is neutral when it's usually just toned-down Mälardalen dialects or people from other parts of the country trying to imitate this type of speech.
Halland was a surprise. Have you lived elsewhere by any chance?
Peter Isotalo 11:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've spent the last year and a half (out of a total 20) in Lund, Skåne. Otherwise, only Halland. A funny aspect of the problem you mention is Danish people crossing the strait. They're used to the dialect spoken in TV or radio, but are encountered by harsh skånska! You're completely right about stockholmska. I actually had a bit of trouble understanding some people during my first visit there, though I suppose all dialects take some getting used to.
User:Herr_apa 23:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]

AfD nomination of Kreegan

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I have nominated Kreegan, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kreegan. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]