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Needs updating it say will will be in 2006 and attempt again in May in Germany which failed at 240 MPH Uber555 03:40, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This page is basically about one thing. The effort SSC is making to create the car that will go faster than the Veyron.

It's tongue in cheek promotion and exagerates the importance of this car in automotive history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.41.244.210 (talk) 19:16, 11 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm quite curious, it looks like a Lamborghini Diablo replica kit car, with Ford Focus (?) headlights. 60.50.48.148 17:29, 8 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, let's see what it can do in Germany on VW's five mile straight. Beat the Bugatti on its home turf. Since it is a German Car underneath it all.Titmanisdaman 20:10, 19 December 2007

The SSC Aero Has NOT Been Verified As World's Fastest Production Cars

Please read the entire article you referenced for 'world's fastest production car' before you post the SSC as such next time, even in the article it states "The data, collected by Dewetron's world-renowned GPS tracking system, will be verified by Guinness before the Ultimate Aero is officially crowned the "World's Fastest Production Car."" Therefore I have removed the reference, for now. There are also questions about whether or not the SSC Aero qualifies as a "production car" based on claims that the car is A) not street legal, and B) has few if any units sold. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RTShadow (talk • contribs) 23:16, 17 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's official! SSC Aero is the fastest!

It is oct. 11, and Guinness has made it official. It is the fastest. In regards to that, I think the article needs a bit of cleaning, especially in the 'Speed Attempt' section. So much for my Bugatti fanboyism :)

For the sake of fairness, keep in mind that Veyron does go as fast as 407.6 kmph, not 378 kmph as stated in the article. I have just witnessed this with my eyes. Also, how reliable are data produced by the car manufacturer? Isn't it supposed to be INDEPENDENT testing?

As of "Bugatti fanboyism", the cars are incomperable. Speed record version of Aero is nothing but a stripped production version, aimed at one and only goal - prove American muscle once again. I have not seen them stripping anything off Veyron to go for 407 kmph. All the luxury was stil there. Oranges and apples, oranges and apples.76.104.253.138 (talk) 01:33, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Units

Shouldn't this article be in US Standard units with the metric units in parentheses as the car is American made? --134.173.56.209 (talk) 08:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it should be. I've done this for the 2006 car section, but it takes a lot of time. Feel free to help! I've cited a wayback cached source for most of the information in that section, which isn't reeeeeally what I would like to do, but the current SSC homepage does only cover the 2007 car. TNC (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Conflicting Values

I don't know much about cars but it seems to me that '6.2-litre (387.4 cu. in.)' and '6.35-litre (387.2 cu. in.)' are conflicting values. As 6.35 litres is greater than 6.2 litres, the cu. in. values should represent that. However, the second cu. in. value is lower than the first. Any explanation/thoughts? PookeyMaster (talk) 09:42, 22 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The official site references 4.125" x 3.620" which is indeed 6.35 litres or 387.24 cu in. However, the site (and this page by citation) also quotes impossible torque and gearing figures -- if the car is producing 1094 ft lbs of torque at 6150 rpm, it is producing 1281 hp at that same speed! Going from the 1183 hp figure, the engine is producing 893 ft lbs at 6950 rpm, so a peak of 920-950 at 6150 rpm would be most likely. And on the gearing: the site's 0.6452/3.44 gearing and 335/30ZR20 tyres would produce a top speed of 218mph at 7200 rpm. A final drive of around 2.7 would produce the speeds the car is reputed to make. The numbers they quote (0.357 cd, 1183hp, etc) would produce a car which is technically capable of the 273mph they talk about a lot. Whether or not the numbers are accurate is up to them. TNC (talk) 23:50, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it's entirely up to them: we shouldn't be quoting the figures if the only source is biased (nor just quote car magazines that, for their part, are just repeating the figures Shelby gives them). You're right, some of those numbers are patent nonsense. Also, the conflict PookeyMaster notes regarding the displacement is real,, and we should address it in some way. If anyone cares about this car, how about trying to find a reputable source for engine size, in cu. in. or liters? atakdoug (talk) 23:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Street Legality

The only place in this article that it is mentioned that the car is street legal, is in the category box thingy at the bottom.

Is the car street legal? Is this verified? MSNBC thinks it is, but I'm not convinced.

Why were the fuel efficiency stats removed?

Someone re-add them. They are useful pieces of information. Malamockq (talk) 01:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Speed Record

"The first run clocked 257.41 mph (414.26 km/h) and the return trip 254.88 mph (410.19 km/h), with the average beating the Bugatti Veyron's speed by 235 mph (378.2 km/h). The results of this test, verified by Guinness World Records on October 9, 2007, gave the SSC Ultimate Aero the title of world's fastest production car."

Not sure what that's supposed to say but it's wrong. 98.223.170.167 (talk) 00:39, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]