Talk:Forensic entomologist

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I liked how you broke down the rules for collection. In the next section however, a suggestion to ya’ll would be to ellaborate on how exactly an entomologist would use tools such as foil, forceps, or sifting screens. All-together good information here -tallfoo2006

Nicely done. I think it would be great if you could collaborate with the group 21 which did "Schools and organizations". The rest of the information however could be left in an artricle talking about what forensic entomologists do or expand that article to include what they do after they graduate and become certified. You all definitely went a different direction than most of the other groups. Quatrevingtsix (talk) 18:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nice article guys, but it drags on in some areas. Try to break it up a bit to make it easier to read. Also, you guys could include important associations of forensic entomologist, or at least link to the article. Good luck on the project yall Azayed34 (talk) 21:19 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, guys. Make sure you make the changes that warning banner is requesting before the date, or this article will be deleted. ABrundage, Texas A&M University (talk) 22:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Anyone have any Ideas on how to fix our stuff? It seems like we need to add some illustrations and break the text up some. I can edit mine down to the bare necessities. Greg09Ag (talk) 22:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Once thing I noticed is that there is an article, although short, on medical entomology. You might want to change your pages internal link to direct to that page. I would also consider expanding the lead section to explain more on what your article is about. The sentence there is a little short and vague. Try briefly going over the topics you will be covering. --PinDr4gon (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was going to include how they incorporate entomology in law in the introduction, but I'm not sure how to word it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galaga180 (talk • contribs)

You should also correctly reference your sources throughout your article.--Angelina5288 (talk) 02:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I highly recommend you take a look at the WP Manual of Style. Just at a quick glance: the article title is capitalized as if it's the title of a book or film, so you may want to move it from The Forensic Entomologist to forensic entomologist. Also, the lines between each section is a little unconventional. All things considered, though, you're off to a good start! Good luck on the assignment! – Clockwork Soul 02:27, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One more thing: I see you have references at the bottom, which is excellent. You might want to skim Wikipedia:Citing sources to see how we handles references here. Good luck again! – Clockwork Soul 02:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I moved the references under the title 'sources' for now and am putting the footnotes under the references title.Galaga180 (talk) 03:33, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Make sure and reference people in a professional way (ie: "Dr. Tomberlin" as opposed to "Jeff" and use the full name "Jeffery" instead of "Jeff" the first time you reference him), and use footnotes for references instead of having just a sources section. This page is very informative though, and easy to follow! Good job guys! Labright (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I edited our introduction. Please tell me if you guys think it is better than before. Garza j e (talk) 00:31, 31 March 2008 (UTC)garza_j_e[reply]

After looking at your article, I noticed you do not have any Categories on your page relevant to your topic. You should include categories at the end of your article to fit wikipedia's requirements. Here is the link to the Categorical Index--Amandamartinez06 (talk) 06:42, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much! That was a very good suggestion. I have added some categories that I think we fit into, but I will keep looking for more. garza_j_e (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 03:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The paper seems like it has enough information, but maybe needs more specific details and examples of what forensic entomologists do. There aren't really any pictures either. Maybe show some entomologists in the field or something. Elaborating on the tools section would probably be a good idea also, not just listing what they are. (Medillar (talk) 22:24, 8 April 2008 (UTC))[reply]

I like the topic because it talks about an actual forensic entomologist. Yall can link the main websites of NAFEA and ABFE in order to give the readers more information on those organizations to make the information more complete. Mikearq (talk) 3:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Good job on your article; however, to make the article easier to read, breaking down long paragraphs into several paragraphs would be beneficial. With longer text, it might be better to break it into a few paragraphs. Just a suggestion, keep up the good work. Csb14 (talk) 15:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I added a new case summary. AMFaris (talk) 13:01, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are just a few suggestions I have. On the first line under Data Collection maybe say they are required to collect copious amounts of data at the scene (instead of take) its more descriptive. Also the 9th line down where is says in addition....temperatures are needed since they are all essential to determining... Maybe make it temperatures are necessary for determining... I just thought that might make it less wordy but still get the point across. Thanks. --Jordanmurphy (talk) 21:00, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey guys, good article, but one thing you might want to do is have more in-paragraph citations. I noticed the second half of the article (Forensic Entomologists of Today and section with the Cases) don't have any citations. Laylou11 (talk) 21:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Under education, you should probably include some of the universities that offer this degree. If a lot do, maybe list the top 3 or something along those lines. I know that not every college in America offers this program and since it is something relatively new, there's probably not many colleges that send out fliers about their forensic entomology program. Also if you do add this is in, be sure to link the university's name to their wikipedia page. I'm sure that lots of prospective students will find this information a lot more helpful if you could make this minor adjustment. Lindseyjean11 (talk) 16:00, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article sounds good. I noticed that y'all didn't have sticky traps in the tools list so I added them in for you; however I did notice that y'all talked about them in the insect collection paragraph. Austinh37 (talk) 19:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the education suggestion of including universities that offer this degree- there is no set degree plan for becoming a forensic entomologist. I believe this was discussed in lecture at one point. A focus in entomology is required but there are other points of emphasis that should/can be studied as well. AMFaris (talk) 17:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right. I do remember that. However I really think it would be very beneficial if you could include an example of a specific university with a good entomology program that offers an option (or a few classes specifically related to this field) that prepares a person to become a forensic entomologist. If you can't think of anything else, include Texas A&M. You could talk about a few of the most important, specific classes that are beneficial. I really think that it would be a lot more helpful that way. Lindseyjean11 (talk) 20:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok so one group, Group #21 is listed as group 29 on the homepage for our articles wrote about the educational background for a forensic entomologist. You should see if they'd like to merge with your article or at least link them to yours'. It would be a really good addition to your page. Lindseyjean11 (talk) 20:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at their article. I agree it would be a good idea to link to their article, so I did. It would also be good if they wanted to merge into our article. I will suggest it. Thank you so much for your input. garza_j_e (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that when talking about the undergraduate education there should maybe be some examples of where all these courses are offered. I believe forensic entomology is a great major/minor that many people would be interested in learning more about, so many people might find it helpful to know where all it is offered. Also I wanted to say that yall did a fantastic job of describing the work that goes behind a forensic entomologist and what all their qualifications are. The only thing that I think yall might want to stress is what a forensic entomologist is NOT qualified to do, such as declare the cause of death. There might need to be some emphasis on how lawyers can trap you in court if you are not careful with your reports and conclusion and how every specialist needs to stick with their field of study!!! Otherwise this is a job well done!!! --Cal101387 (talk) 05:47, 15 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]