User talk:Mofb

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Hello, Mofb, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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legal threats

Please be aware that there is a policy Wikipedia:No legal threats against making legal threats on Wikipedia. Threats to bring libel actions can qualify. I don't think you have yet done anything block/ban worthy, but given your comment and concerns in the Arbitration case it would seem appropriate to caution you that the policy exists and advise you to read it. GRBerry 16:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Again, if you wish to take legal action, please do so through the proper channels. Edit summaries like this are not permitted on Wikipedia due to the chilling effect, and any further mention of legal action whatsoever will leave us with no alternative but to block this account per our no legal threats policy until any and all legal actions are finally resolved or withdrawn. Stifle (talk) 11:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From Monckton of Brenchley: I have replied to "Stifle" in some detail on his own talk page. Briefly, I have tried on many previous occasions to have several serious and damaging factual errors removed from my Wikipedia entry, which was posted without my knowledge or consent and without anyone having had the courtesy or common sense to check the facts with me. On the most recent occasion on which I attempted to make careful and fair corrections, a Mr. Dabelstein-Petersen reversed my edit within two minutes of its posting. He could not possibly have had time to verify the facts that quickly, and he certainly checked none of them with me. On enquiry I have discovered that he is a strong believer in the alarmist presentation of climate change, and that he is notorious for dive-bombing the biographical entries of those with whose opinions on this subject he disagrees, inserting as much detrimental material about them as he can, whether accurate or inaccurate. I am by no means his only victim. I believe he should be permanently debarred from editing biographical entries, and perhaps from playing any part whatsoever in Wikipedia. This Christmas game must now stop. After numerous previous warnings that Wikipedia has regrettably treated with frivolous contempt, I have, therefore, instructed my lawyers to write to Wikipedia in detail about these persisting inaccuracies, and to seek an undertaking that the inaccuracies will be permanently removed and that my biographical page will either be altogether taken down (my personal preference, since I am adequately and accurately listed in reliable reference sources) or permanently protected against Mr. Dabelstein-Petersen. I very much regret having had to take this action, and I do think I have tried my best to resolve matters as best I can by all other possible means first. - M of B

The matter is under discussion at the admin noticeboard.

May I please remind you again of Wikipedia:No legal threats and that Wikipedia is hosted by the Wikimedia Foundation, a non-profit organization domiciled in California, USA. As such, you may find that the courts of Scotland have no jurisdiction against it.

Can I please ask that you specify what you find wrong about the page Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, either here or at Talk:Christopher Monckton, 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley? Given the recent edit history of the page I have taken the precaution of protecting it from further edits for the time being.

If I cannot dissuade you from legal action, the Wikimedia Foundation's address at which process can be served can be found at foundation:Contact us. However, I must stress that editing from your account is liable to be disabled in this case to avoid prejudicing any legal action.

Thank you for your patience. Stifle (talk) 13:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

From Monckton of Brenchley: I have specified what is factually incorrect on my page by editing it to remove the inaccuracies. I have also now instructed my lawyers to send to Wikipedia a list of 16 inaccuracies, with reasons, and with proposals for their correction - proposals which are fully reflected in the edits which I have made. Please inform me of how to complain formally about Mr. Dabelstein-Petersen's long history of distorting my biographical entry. His latest tactic, after being thwarted by your restoration of my edits (for which I am most grateful) has been to approach other members of the "global-warming" alarmist community to invite them to restore his errors piecemeal. So I must also say how grateful I am that you have frozen the page altogether for the time being.

Provided that the page remains substantially as it now is after your kind restoration of my edits, there will be no need for me to proceed to the courts: though, for my own protection against further attempts at libel, I have instructed my lawyers to send to Wikipedia the list of corrections to the biographical entry as it stood before I corrected it.

I am afraid that neither Wikipedia nor Wikimedia will be able to escape their obligations not to perpetrate or perpetuate libels if I am eventually compelled to lodge a petition at the Sheriff Court for an interdict, followed by a petition at the Court of Session for libel. My solicitors will if necessary join as parties the (relatively small) number of internet trunk carriers in the UK, whom the Court may - if it chooses - order to block any Wikipedia content that mentions me by name, as a way to prevent further circulation of the libels. Since Scots law is constructed purposively, there would be little that the carriers could do except to comply, particularly in the face of evidence that Wikipedia had sought to shelter behind a not-for-profit shell corporation outwith the jurisdiction. Those providers, many of whom operate not only in the United Kingdom but also in the jurisdiction that shelters Wikimedia, might well then take action themselves against Wikimedia within its jurisdiction of convenience to prevent it from permitting or facilitating the circulation of further libels on the networks managed or controlled by them. If I were to succeed, thousands of other disgruntled victims of Wikipedia libels would follow the route which our standing Counsel in Edinburgh will devise.

On balance, therefore, Wikipedia may prefer simply to see the back of me, by removing my biographical entry altogether and preventing anyone from creating one in future. That is my preferred solution. However, as I have said, for as long as the page continues to be protected to prevent malicious and deliberately inaccurate alterations to the unreasonable and unfair detriment of my reputation, I shall of course stay my hand. Thank you for your kind and helpful attention to my difficulties. - Monckton of Brenchley. Mofb (talk) 14:31, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Signing your posts

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