Talk:Battle of Monte Porzio

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"Rome"

I have a problem with all the talk of a "Roman" army and one of the sides in the battle being "Rome." I suppose in sense this is strictly speaking true, but it's also confusing, as it summons up images of ancient Rome -- particularly confusing when the other side in the fight is the "Holy Roman Empire". As near as I can tell from the article, the army in question actually answered to the Pope; it would be more correct to call it a "Papal" army, I think. This has resulted in some incoherence on the front page right now. --Jfruh (talk) 03:32, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, it is quite confusing to the reader and should be changed. For a battle listed as the "Cannae" of the middle ages, the article is quite poor.

And also it has an untranslated Latin phrase and the bottom para is in a box that strays over the page margins Cosnahang 07:59, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I did not find the phrase in List of Latin phrases. It should probubly be added when it is translated.--208.102.210.163 (talk) 20:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have made some changes but still no Latin translation, I will ask my daughter this evening. Cosnahang 08:05, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The "Battle" section is ridiculously confusing. When both sides are "Roman", attempting to distinguish one side by referring to it as "Roman" is ineffective. It seems that an attempt to distinguish between actions is made by constantly referring to the leader of the respective army. However, for someone unfamiliar with subject, this results in the reader jumping back and forth to see which side the leader is representing. Mojodaddy (talk) 17:50, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion

This was one of the Wikipedia daily articles for May 28, 2007. After reading it I was confused, even though I have some familiarity of the election system of the Holy Roman empire. I added a few clarifications, especially Prince-elector which I believe might help. But the layman's question would be, "Why are archbishops in battle against the Pope?" Question number two would be, "Why is the Holy Roman emperor battling with Rome and the Pope?" Taking the article from these points might help clarify this historical battle. Group29 13:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also Brabantine - Brabançons is confusing as well Group29 13:31, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So far I have read the first paragraph and there are numerous spelling, language and tense errors, I am trying to edit them, but I just wanted to read the article, not work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.245.185.2 (talk) 03:18, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think besides one short paragraph, the article is missing a reference to the power struggle between power-hungry popes and german kings in their title as holy roman emperors, which greatly influenced the history of medieval Italy and Germany. If there is an article about that series of conflicts in the english wikipedia, one should put a link to it in the background section of this article. When you learned history in german schools, and did in fact listen, the struggle for investiture is a well-known topic and you don't wonder at all why archbishops from Germany battle the pope on behalf of the holy roman emperor. However, since this is the english wikipedia, an expert should probably put up said links so that people who had a different curriculum can understand what the battle was about. 141.76.40.160 (talk) 06:25, 29 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]