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Hi, I have nominated your template at Template:Artichoker for speedy deletion as it is a test page. If you wish to contest this nomination, add {{hangon}} to the top of the page and explain why you think the page should be kept on the talk page. Do not remove the speedy deletion notice. Thank you. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 03:37, 6 November 2007

Recurring characters in The Legend of Zelda series

Heya, im the one who was "proving a point" on the re-occurring Zelda chars page. See, I added a part about Syrup the witch being hinted at in A link to the past for the GBA. It was deleted as speculation, but the entire page held very similar assumptions about characters. I feel that if my addition was removed, twice, then the page should be consistent. All the edits I did were professional and none vandalizing, I removed allot of speculation holding the same values that deleted my one little addition. I apologize if you saw it as vandalism, however it was just correcting hypocrisy, and I don’t think my "speculation" should have been removed when the page was littered with it. If mine was to be removed, then the rest should have been too. Wikipedia is filled with this kind of hypocrisy, and if my harmless addition is to be targeted, then I shall fix the entire page. I honestly did not mean to cause trouble, only fix what evidently is so important to defend to many others. 64.5.200.106 (talk) 06:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! me again, if you want to discuss this with my feel free to e-mail me at Kitmouse@hotmail.com :D I do have a Wikipedia log in, but I don't use it often, and mostly just use Wikipedia at work. if you look at the history of this IP address, you will see I don't vandalize. 64.5.200.106 (talk) 06:31, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Well a lot of the stuff that you removed was not speculation, but notable information. You kind of went overboard, removing large chunks of writing of some good information. Your addition to Syrup the Witch was speculation, but that last edit you made to her can stay. Also, for future reference, please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. Artichoker (Discussion) 15:08, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Races in The Legend of Zelda series

Just to clear things up it is HoHo not Ho Ho i know this because did the research for the article and i never said the Gorons were a tribe i have been working on getting rid of that. and i dont know if its you but the yook are a tribe but this is refering to a collective race. LegendLiver (talk) 22:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if you know this, but each page has its own edit history. This means you can tell exactly who changed something on that page. KrytenKoro is the one who undid most of your changes (an example being the HoHo title). I was the one who reverted your edit from "Goron" to "Goron Tribe", however (I misread the edit history, and I apologize). If you have any questions regarding HoHo (or Ho Ho), please consult KrytenKoro, for I have no clue. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). Thanks. Artichoker (Discussion) 23:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pokemon abilities

Concerning your revert of Pokemon game mechanics: You wrote: Each Pokémon has one or two abilities according to its species. I'm not trying to get into an edit war, but this is false. Each species has one or two possible abilities, but each (individual) Pokemon can only have one ability. If you've got a better way to word it than it was written before, than by all means go ahead. 128.54.228.80 (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, individual Pokémon can have more than one ability. For example, the Pokémon Hariyama has the abilities Thick Fat (Fire and Ice-type move inflict only 50 percent of the damage) and Guts (The Pokémon's attack power rises 1.5x when inflicted with a status condition). Artichoker (Discussion) 22:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, I know for a fact that there's only one "Ability" slot for each Pokemon in R/S/E (so the Hariyama I caught could have Thick Fat or Guts, but not both). Maybe it's different in D/P. I don't know. I can't find any fansites or screens confirming one way or the other. 128.54.228.80 (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How would you know that there is only one ability slot for each Pokémon? Another example is the Pokémon Shuppet. In D/P, it has the abilities Insomnia (Pokémon cannot be put to Sleep) and Frisk (Allows you to see your opponent's hold items). I have confirmed that an individual Shuppet can hold both of these abilities at the same time (since this is very easy to test.) Artichoker (Discussion) 23:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Um, maybe because I've played the games? And if Lotad could have both Swift Swim and Rain Dish at once, I wouldn't have had to breed so many of them to get the 'right' ability? In any case, I guess they changed it in D/P. Nevermind. 128.54.228.80 (talk) 22:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Character's Pokemon

The show revolves around them catching Pokemon! Since that's the point of the show it's not worthy to name which types of Pokemon they have! Otherwise the articles are all like Max's, that they don't have any! Just leave them in there because their Pokemon are important to the plot of the show! --71.115.66.40 (talk) 21:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon are important of course, but nonnotable for the articles on characters like Ash Ketchum. Maintaining a list of all of his Pokémon is of limited interest, and so it should be taken out. Artichoker (Discussion) 22:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Team Rocket

Do you think it should be redirected? I've trimmed and pasted most of it. Ultra! 15:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I think it could be a redirect. I'll go do that now. Thanks. Artichoker (Discussion) 16:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ash Ketchum

While they may be anons, they are still editors. I think that removing his Pokemon counts as a controversial action due to the revert warring over it, and you should garner a consensus in a discussion before repeating the deletion. Cheers, -The Hybrid- 02:42, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you do need to take our opinions into consideration. You constantly say that we have no reason worth editing it and that we need to give a reason, yet all you do is say "It's nonnotable." You're the only one who deletes it, and that's only your opinion. I would appreciate it if you would think of others and not only yourself!--71.115.66.40 (talk) 02:29, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also you were saying how we need to get others approval to make edits about certain things, and yet I didn't see you making any discussions about weither the Pokemon sections should be removed. You were just hoping that nobody would listen to us because we were anons, but that's hypocrisy, you need to make discussions next time you make an edit!--71.115.66.40 (talk) 02:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I do think of others, and I also think of the good of the article. I have proved your claim, that I am the only one who deletes it, wrong on the talk page. Hybrid here reminded me that I needed to make a discussion before I reverted again. And at the time of his posting here, my current version was on the article. Now someone has nicely started a section on the talk page, and I have responded to it. You however, do need to give a better argument as to why the Pokémon section should be added back. All you have done so far is make frivolous claims that distract from the original discussion. Artichoker (Discussion) 13:26, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is Legendary Pokemon needed?

Google hits show all fansites. I added its parts to both games and anime. Ultra! 16:26, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, it probably isn't. I think I'll make that a redirect too. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Artichoker (Discussion) 17:35, 23 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Need an opinion on Orange Islands

Somebody is reverting this redirect to Pokemon regions saying "discuss it first." Ultra! 14:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you that the article should become a redirect. However, since they continue to revert you I suggest you discuss it on the talk page first, like they said. I will participate in the discussion. Artichoker (Discussion) 16:39, 25 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon Red and Blue

Sorry I didn't get to the conflict in time, I had a bunch of stuff to do today and never sat down for more than a couple minutes. I see that Glitch City has been taken to AFD, so perhaps that will help settle the issue. If there's still something more I can do, don't hestitate to ask. Useight (talk) 05:13, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

List of Pokemon obtained by Main Characters

Unbelievable. This is starting to get tedious. I guess take it to AFD so we can get a consensus there as to the notability of said topic. Plus the title isn't even right, people never use the "é". Useight (talk) 14:52, 2 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Editor's Barnstar

		The Editor's Barnstar
		For your thorough de-crufting of Hoenn, Johto and Kanto (Pokémon), it impressed me. Knowing what to delete is equally important as knowing what not to delete. Nice work. WilliamH (talk) 18:16, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for this barnstar, it is greatly appreciated! Artichoker^talk 02:06, 6 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your revert at Bullying

Not only was "challenged" better word choice, it was what was used in the source material, since that text was from a direct quote. (Incidentally, since the editor who changed it had a history of such edits—and a history of warnings—he's been blocked for 24 hours.) Thank you for catching that and cleaning it up! —C.Fred (talk) 15:56, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, always glad to help. Artichoker^talk 15:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great Scott

Hey there, Artichoker. I see that you've reverted the mentioning of Scott's name on the Pokémon Emerald article, citing WP:N as a reason, quite a few times already. Keep it up. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 13:02, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, comments like this are always appreciated. Artichoker^talk 13:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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May

Why was May (Pokemon) not merged? Ultra! 21:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, I guess because no one was bold and did it, and there was no discussion about it. You could go ahead and merge it right now. I'm okay with that. Also, Ash, Brock, and Misty still have separate articles as well. Artichoker^[talk]

Misty's notability is clear to me. Brock and Ash have been in the series for more time, so they could be more notable. Ultra! 21:32, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But you are saying May does not have enough notability, right? Artichoker^[talk] 21:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, according to your merge of May (Pokemon), I guess so. Let it be known that I support this though. Cheers, Artichoker^[talk] 21:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zelda enemies

Thank's a lot for writing up that section. I know I've not been much help this time, but honestly, I have an excuse (that my computer is in the shop, and I'm using my mother's old clunky one instead). What should I be doing to help fill out the sections?

Also, I feel that some of the enemies you removed are indeed traditional or recurring throughout the series. I'm going to back them up to a sub-section on the talk page so that we can iron out what the standard is, this time around.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 13:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey no problem, and if you could maybe expand and improve the section I wrote, that would be awesome. And I'm sorry if I removed some important enemies, you are free to add them back if you wish. Cheers, Artichoker^[talk] 14:31, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pick up in pokemon

why did you remove that, i cited it with a site and everything.Yami (talk) 18:13, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

here is a youtube video that shows it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFn9pqOYvus

a jpg

http://pages.prodigy.net/maryjorhodes/pokemon_truck.jpg

that's proff, and as i said i had cited it with a reference to a site. Yami (talk) 18:18, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

a wiki with it info on it

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/In_what_city_is_the_truck_in_pokemon_blue Yami (talk) 18:21, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First of all none of the links you provided are valid (YouTube, a picture, and an unsourced wiki.) Second, the whole text; about a truck appearing in game, is completely non-notable. Artichoker^[talk] 18:25, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mudflap (Transformers) page

I fixed the issues that got the image deleted after talking to the admin who deleted the image. It should be fixed now. Mathewignash (talk) 22:26, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks for the heads-up, although next time you should talk to the admin before restoring the edit. Artichoker^[talk] 22:27, 16 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Notability of Giovanni unclear...

But where to merge? He's not just a piece of anime, and correct me if wrong -- he has been more in games. Ultra! 11:05, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What? He has made one or two appearances in a couple games (R/B/Y/FR/LG); he is much more prominent in the anime, so if his article was to be merged, it would certainly go to the List of Pokémon anime characters. Artichoker^[talk] 11:11, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What about the rest of material? Summarise there itself? Ultra! 11:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, all of the text on Giovanni (Pokémon) should be trimmed and summarized on List of Pokémon anime characters#Giovanni. Artichoker^[talk] 11:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Circus Vargas Performers

Hello, Artichoker.

My name is Zdrack (My parents are Trekkers) I need information from you on how to keep the performer's list on the Circus vargas page. I am a performer at Circus Vargas, and Mr. Quiroga had asked me to update the performers list, but I notice you have removed it. May I put it up again.

I'll soon learn how to sign my posting. Zdrack —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zdrack2 (talk • contribs) 13:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I suppose the performers list could be re-added, but the rest (such as list of accidents and such) fail WP:NOT. And you sign your posts, just type four tildes at the end of your comment (~~~~). Thanks. Artichoker^[talk] 13:25, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After looking over the expansive list of mostly non-notable performs, I think it would be best just to add the management section back. Artichoker^[talk] 13:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I'm still learning.

Hey, Artichoker! With all your delitions, I wanted to know why are you against Circus vargas? I did not begin that page, but I was asked, by Circus Vargas management to correct it, since there were some wrong information on it. And they requested that I update the performers list.

Zdrack2 (talk) 17:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Zdrack2 (talk) 19:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will tell you that I am absolutely not against that article (nor any article for that matter.) I was simply removing some details that do not belong on this encyclopedia. See what Wikipedia is not. Artichoker^[talk] 17:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I read through what Wikipedia is not and I am not able to see your point. The performers, past and present is an integral part of Circus vargas. I have noticed that other articles list their circus performers.

Zdrack2 (talk) 20:09, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. And which articles are you talking about, I have looked through a few circus articles, and none of them mention their performers. Artichoker^[talk] 20:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This are just a few where their performers are mention. I'll look for more when I have the time.

[[1]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Greatest_Show_on_Earth

[[2]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuses#Circus_acts

[[3]]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringling_Brothers_and_Barnum_and_Bailey_Circus#Names

Zdrack2 (talk) 23:46, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, fair enough. However, note that in each of the examples you have provided that only five or six of the main performers are listed. You can go ahead and add back some of the performers, but try to limit them to the most important/main ones, not every single person participating in the project. Cheers, Artichoker^[talk] 23:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Then again this seems to be your gig, and it gives you a sence of power, so we'll move on and leave all to you. It's not the end of the world for us. Zdrack2 (talk) 23:51, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, I am not feeling any sense of power, just a will to help benefit the encyclopedia. Artichoker^[talk] 23:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, will do on my next visit. Zdrack2 (talk) 00:08, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Artichoker my man, you ARE power hungry. Why do you do deleting other peoples articles and contribution just because you do not like them. I guess is time for me to move on. You keep the power.

Zdrack2 (talk) 03:13, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, I am simply trying to help maintain an encyclopedia. I tagged your article for speedy deletion because it did not show notability, which it must. Then an administrator who agreed with me deleted it. This has absolutely nothing to do with whether I like the article or not. I honestly don't know where you get that. Try reading some policies instead of falsely accusing people. Thanks, Artichoker^[talk] 11:28, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beastmaster

My article on beast master was not usless dude. What the heck i mean when i first played adventure quest i had no idea what a beast master was. so i looked on wiki and it wasnt there. then i played the game and learned about the beast master and decided to put it on wiki and now u think that its not acceptible for other people to learn about. what ur problem?

It is a non-notable fictional character from a video game, and most likely doesn't warrant mention in Beastmaster. Artichoker^[talk] 02:29, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

its not a character. its a type of ability in a video game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faln angel82 (talk • contribs) 02:34, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That makes it even less notable. Artichoker^[talk] 02:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you delet articles just because isnt not notable

Exactly, its called Wikipedia policy. Artichoker^[talk] 02:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

my article would be notable because there are over 40,000 users who have an account on adenture quest. lol there are almost 10 new accounts every day. i am sure a new user would want to know what a beast master is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faln angel82 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Just because the game is popular certainly does not make an ability within it notable. Artichoker^[talk] 02:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

you will see how people talk about this skill on other forums if you type in "beastmaster class" on google. I wouldnt consider this type of skill non-notable.

Forums, google; those doesn't verify anything at all. Artichoker^[talk] 02:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Forums can verify how many people talk about the topic and why they talk about it. Its not like forums doesnt deterimine how popular a topic is or there would be no topic. And guess what there are forums on a beastmaster. And people around the world seem to talk about it.Faln angel82 (talk) 03:18, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:Verifiability. Artichoker^[talk] 10:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your right. I do not have proof for my aritcle. But I see that most of your atricles arent verified either. So please get some work cited for those or I will have a reason not to verify my articles.Faln angel82 (talk) 13:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What articles are you talking about? Can you provide some examples, and also please do not disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point. Artichoker^[talk] 14:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Examples:ned's declassified school survival guide. I feel that you did not find that from a source. And i also feel that it is not notable either. The fact that ned met mose in the third grade or something. How would that fact be notable.Faln angel82 (talk) 14:31, 18 June 2008 (UTC) And the ocean avenue (song) there is no verification for that article either.Faln angel82 (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"you"? I don't believe I have ever edited that article, and if I did it was mostly for copy-editing. So I frankly don't know what you are talking about. Artichoker^[talk] 14:36, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you look under your contibutions and look for ned's declassified school survival guide and ocean avenue (song) articles you will see that you have worked on those articles with no verification. I dont think it matters "how" you worked on them its the fact that you changed or added something with no verification. Faln angel82 (talk) 14:45, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? Please remember to assume good faith. Did you even look at my revisions. I was simply copyediting, which requires no sources. This means that it DOES matter "how" I worked on them. Artichoker^[talk] 14:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Its the fact that I dont think your consuming good faith either. My beast master was notable enough to be put on wiki. If I put all the wikipedia requriements on it would you let me do another article on it? Faln angel82 (talk) 15:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have assumed good faith; I am trying to be helpful and point you in the right direction. Beastmaster is an ability in a computer game; this makes it entirely gamecruft, and I honestly doubt it would ever meet all of the Wikipedia requirements. However, if you were able to [somehow] show that it displays notability, then it can have an article. This most likely is impossible as once again it is an ability in a computer game; entirely in-universe, etc. Artichoker^[talk] 15:03, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pokémon types

What the use of this guide? Ultra! 19:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This most likely should be merged into Pokémon game mechanics; thoughts? Artichoker^[talk] 19:47, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Misty (Pokémon)

Hello, I saw this edit on Misty's page. I'm not very familiar with the anime, but I figured you would be, so I thought I'd bring the edit to your attention instead of reverting it myself. Useight (talk) 22:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, and thank you for bringing this to my attention. This is absolute vandalism and I will revert it. Hehe Pokémon is a little kid's show, there's no way there would be any romance at all. Cheers, Artichoker^[talk] 22:32, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Blue Heron Music Festival

Proffessor Louie & The Crowmatix is the correct spelling please don't change it again. Futurehawk (talk) 02:48, 19 June 2008 (UTC

Are you sure you are not spelling Professor wrong (as it is supposed to only have one 'f'.) A search of Google shows that your spelling is most likely wrong. Artichoker^[talk] 02:54, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not spelling it at all the artist spells it that way http://www.greatblueheron.com/ Futurehawk (talk) 03:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK fair enough. Cheers, Artichoker^[talk] 14:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Great Blue Heron Music Festival

It's true that Pokemon Gold and Silver batteries can be recharged if you get 100+ hours on it...It happened to my Gold version. However, it usually does not last longer than a few hours. The reason that G/S batteries recharge is because while playing, the battery does not need to work because it uses the System's battery. I've read about it here: http://www.serebiiforums.com/showthread.php?t=164862.