Talk:Vagina dentata

penis panics are 'ende mic' in asia now is it? HiS oWn 22:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I rather doubt that dermoid cysts are the origin of the idea of the vagina dentata. (And how, frankly, would it ever be known what the origin was?) If no source can be cited, that paragraph should go. Dermoid cysts have no particular affinity for genitals, so said "teeth" can occur nearly anywhere, yet one does not hear of an eyebrow dentata. - Nunh-huh 04:38, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

That claim is made on the Dr. Dean Edell external link; not sure if it's original to there. Smerdis of Tlön 11:35, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

The Dean Edell link tells an anecdote about a woman with a dermoid cyst in her vagina, but it certainly doesn't say that the idea of the vagina dentata originated with such a case. - Nunh-huh 17:20, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I don't claim that it is the source of the myth, only that there is some reality in the myth. I think it is likely that the two are related. A vaginal dermoid cyst during the Dark Ages, or even well before then, certainly would not be understood as a medical condition. Even well intentioned and certainly more modern folks like Freud could make huge blundering mistakes of that same nature. We don't hear of eyebrow dentata for the simple fact that Freud popularized the vagina dentata term for specific purposes. Just because dermoid cysts can create effects that are a superset that includes vagina dentata doesn't rule it out as a possible reality source of the myth. - 63.109.236.92 20:11, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

You think it is likely: I think it is unlikely. Is there some citable authority/source that can be quoted that suggests that a dermoid cyst gave rise to the myth of the vagina dentata? - Nunh-huh 20:16, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Lemme try this again... I was distracted. I don't care if it is a source of the myth at all. It is a reality that causes an effect remarkably similar to the myth. Medically, it carries the same name as the myth. In those regards it is linked with the myth. The Dr. Dean Edell piece should certainly be enough to show there is that linkage between the myth and the reality. Chicken and the egg: I don't care which came first. - UtherSRG 20:28, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

So then let us not imply causality in our choice of headings. If no reputable source specifies that a dermoid cyst is "behind" the myth, neither should we. If a reputable source can be found for the speculation that a rare deformity "may" be an origin of the vagina dentata, we should cite it: if it is merely our speculation, we should avoid it. - Nunh-huh 20:51, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)~

Freud and the vagina dentata

I'm not aware that Freud ever wrote about the vagina dentata. He thought the vagina inspired castration anxiety because it was evidence of a castration that had already taken place -- not because it threatened to enact a castration in the future. The first paragraph of this entry may need to be rewritten. Tcassedy 00:09, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Has this part been rewritten? The article reads accurately to me. A citation was needed. I had read the book and found it on project Gutenberg. Here is the citation:http://www.gutenberg.org/files/14969/14969-h/14969-h.htm#p56//Zarthon 01:12, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

it is often falsely attributed to Sigmund Freud.

So to whom should it be attributed, then? I think this needs clarifying. --210.1.207.118 14:11, 8 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Image

The rather disturbing and graphic image at the top of this page may be a bad idea. I think it should be at the bottom with a warning - or not inline at all, but linked - but would like to get some input before making a change. Nickptar 01:13, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't need to be in the article at all, as far as I am concerned. Fire Star 01:16, 16 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Confusing literary reference

I have removed the following text from the "References" section:

"In Will Self's Cock and Bull (1992), Carol has grown a penis below her vagina, which empowers her to dominate her husband, Dan, in the sexual acts. The vagina dentata (toothed vagina) also threatens the phallic power and masculinity of her husband. The mysterious darkness inside the female genital is complicated with the surrealistic appearance of the penis on a woman's body. The teeth is actualized by the female's penis, which threatens the penis of her husband in return. For the detailed passage in the novel, refer to p. 53 of the novel (1992, London: Penguin)."

It seems to me like it belongs under "Examples in popular culture and literature", but I am not inclined to reinsert it without reworking some awkward grammar: "in the sexual acts"; "inside the female genital"; "The teeth is actualized". It also contains irrelevancies such as introducing character names and repeating the translation of "vagina dentata". I was unable to clean it up myself because to be honest, I don't understand it. How is growing a penis the same as growing teeth? TheDewi 02:39, 6 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ummm...what?

"All four hosts of "The View" reportedly have vagina dentata. New host, Rosie O'Donnell is said to have "bad vagina dentata" and is required to floss. The only host not to have vagina dentata is former host Star Jones Reynolds. The reason stated by Star was that her legs were too fat and would chafe, therefore, leaving no teeth. " Vandalism? Caligi 21:47, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

...well, duh. Master Deusoma (talk)

Mircea Eliade

First of all, I'm sad to see the contemptible puritans have won once more, that is to say, the "disturbing"(LOL LOL LOL) toothed-vulva picture that ornamented the article "Vagina dentata" has been removed. Secondly, it is surprising that nobody has cared to mention that the toothed vagina plays a fundamental role in TRADITIONal initiation rites(the word TRADITION having here its *original* meaning, namely...{go consult the multi-volume edition of the "well-known" Oxford English Dictionary, ok?}). Putting things bluntly, the ones who Wiki-write about vagina dentata apparently have never even perused the works of Mircea Eliade; surely that is an exceedingly-shameful situation -.-

Most sincerely,

KSM-2501ZX, IP address:= 200.143.1.33 10:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular culture

Currently, articles such as Vagina dentata in popular culture are not standing on their own at Afd, but being deleted or merged to the main article. I suggest we do that here without having to wait for the afd. I realise it was here once, & personally I see nothing wrong with having the separate article, but the consensus is that it wont pass by itself. DGG (talk) 21:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No one's opposed the merge in about a month. I'll go ahead and do that. Kerowyn ^{Leave a note} 03:46, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

and now i see someone unilaterally deleted that portion, clearly against consensus here. i have reverted it. DGG (talk) 22:47, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about adding a reference to Aeire's Queen of Wands strip about Vagina Dentata? This is the location of the strip: http://www.queenofwands.net/d/20040121.html I find it hilarious, first place I heard about the myth. I've never edited on Wikipedia though, so not sure how/where to add it. Anyone else think this is worth adding? I don't think it would violate copyright, since the link goes straight to her own website. There's my two cents ;)

Ahran Arnold?

Who is Ahran Arnold, what is his criticism of the Rapex and where and when was he convicted of rape? This seems like vandalism to me, just throwing a name in and calling the guy a rapist. All I have found is stuff like an Amazon review of a sci-fi book (by Arnold) and a bizarre reference to the name in reference to Ramen noodles in another wikipedia article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.144.24.72 (talk) 05:57, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia Section and lack of references

I think that a lot of the stuff in the trivia section is really just superfluous. Maybe it's just because I'm female, but I feel like a lot of this article - especially the "pop culture" section - contains things that are really not that culturally significant. Or significant at all. Some of the references seem completely random (as found on the internet?), and the Ursula deal... can anyone find a reference for that? I don't think it's verifiable at all. Ministry of Silly Walks 03:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apocalypse Zero?

Maybe someone should mention anime Apocalypse Zero, where was women with this phenomenon.. 213.211.34.213 (talk) 13:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

No real cases?

Ive read about lots of strange diseases and conditions that can cause bone or teeth to grow in unusual places, is there no condition where teeth in a vagina or something like teeth actually occur? 59.167.131.231 (talk) 19:21, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Witches

Isn't it part of folklore that witches have teeth in thier vagina which they use to bite off the penises of fornicators. Basicly a myth made up by the church to stop people having sex outside of marriage. Does anyone know of a referance for that?

Something in the bible says that or the gospel. This is some pretty screwed up stuff. 72.192.48.119 (talk) 21:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Citation for that being in Bible, please? I've apparently got an incomplete copy, then, because mine says nothing even resembling that...76.179.227.210 (talk) 18:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Real?

After watching the movie trailer and being redirected to http://www.vagident.co.uk/ from the movie website www.teethmovie.com, I get the impression that this is a real medical problem, "affecting approximately 1 in 12 million women" as mentioned on that website.

I take it though, that this is just a big joke/myth as various other places in the internet (Including this ecyclopedia) do have it as a myth. So is it just a myth? Just curious! 212.219.92.189 (talk) 08:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ofcourse its just a myth —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.209.59.16 (talk) 05:03, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]