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Sugababes single Girls deletion of the writers name
Hi
I keep noticing that you keep deleting my name (Nicole Jenkinson) from the list of writers when i am the legal and publishered co writer for this song that the sugababes have performed. After checking the Wikipedia guidlines i realize i cannot write about myself but i am the legal writer on this song and MUST NOT be deleted from the list of writers.
Please inform me if this is not able to be put right as i will need to seek advice from my publisher and music lawyer about the false information given on the artical regarding the writers.
Many thanks --DoreenRay (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)--DoreenRay (talk) 18:26, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- The article was deleted because it did not conform to Wikipedia's standards for new articles about individuals: please review WP:MUSIC for notability standards for musicians. It has nothing to do with you, particularly, there was just no indication or supporting information asserting notability in accordance with Wikipedia requirements. The words "up and coming" are almost always an indication that the individual is not yet notable. Wikipedia is not a place to establish notability: it merely documents pre-existing notability. You will need to provide references in multiple independent media to document your notability: see WP:V. Please understand that nobody has a right to inclusion or credit in Wikipedia, and that your publisher or lawyer cannot demand that you be included or credited. You may wish to review WP:NLT concerning legal threats. Acroterion (talk) 18:42, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- There is no reason you can't note yourself as the writer in the song's article. We get a lot of kids taking credit for someone else's work, so backup is vital to ensure that the right person gets the credit. For an article solely about you, we would expect a lengthier article mentioning other work, and providing references.
- However, you have previously blanked the articles for Heidi Range, Keisha Buchanan and Amelle Berrabah, which we treat as vandalism. Why would you do that? Acroterion (talk) 19:20, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Military history WikiProject coordinator election
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Geez, gimme half a minute to template the guy, wouldja?
Sheesh... HalfShadow 03:04, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Which guy was that? Acroterion (talk) 03:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh geez..I forget. Oh yeah... User:Zlot641. Tagged the article and *ping!*, it's gone. Strong coffee? HalfShadow 03:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- No caffeine at all, just cranky. Acroterion (talk) 03:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Don't blame you. Hell, all I do is watchdog and sometimes it can be a pain. You have buttons. HalfShadow 03:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Buttons help greatly with draining the swamp, which is getting a bit deep tonight. I'm cranky for work-related reasons: this seems more productive, but I need to sign off in a few minutes and get some sleep. Acroterion (talk) 03:19, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Don't blame you. Hell, all I do is watchdog and sometimes it can be a pain. You have buttons. HalfShadow 03:16, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- No caffeine at all, just cranky. Acroterion (talk) 03:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
- Oh geez..I forget. Oh yeah... User:Zlot641. Tagged the article and *ping!*, it's gone. Strong coffee? HalfShadow 03:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Blanking
Im sorry I over reacted it will NEVER happen again Rayman 1110 (talk) 03:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
advertising
so can i advertise on my user page?Rayman 1110 (talk) 03:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- No, you may not "advertise" at all on Wikipedia, but appropriate links to your personal interests or projects may be placed on your userpage, as long as they're not overtly promotional in nature - we allow more discretion in userspace. Acroterion (talk) 11:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
EntertainU
Thankyou for blocking me. I will now make constuctive edits to wikipedia, and not use it as a chat service. If this seems like a lie to you, you may monitor my edits and changes to wikipedia. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to contact me. I'm on the computer for most of the day. entertainU (talk) 22:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I don't think you owe me thanks for blocking you, but we are all here to build an encyclopedia, not to chat. Happy editing - Acroterion (talk) 23:39, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
penis
penis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobsacket67u (talk • contribs)
- Excellent! You know a critically important word in everyday discourse, useful in practically any situation. Congratulations! Acroterion (talk) 23:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- Huzzah for the penis! It has a thousand and one uses: you can use it to urinate, masturbate, pound nails into a wall, and lure sharks! You can even use it to reproduce your genes, but only if you have good enough manners to persuade a lady to assist you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
- You can even let it do your thinking for you! Acroterion (talk) 00:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Due to crazy random happenstance, I came across this message, and felt it necessary to inform you that your responses made me smile, which was a much needed thing today. Cheers. lol Pip (talk) 16:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hurrah for serendipity! Glad we could help out. Cheers, Acroterion (talk) 16:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- Due to crazy random happenstance, I came across this message, and felt it necessary to inform you that your responses made me smile, which was a much needed thing today. Cheers. lol Pip (talk) 16:48, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
- You can even let it do your thinking for you! Acroterion (talk) 00:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- Huzzah for the penis! It has a thousand and one uses: you can use it to urinate, masturbate, pound nails into a wall, and lure sharks! You can even use it to reproduce your genes, but only if you have good enough manners to persuade a lady to assist you. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 23:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Regarding these vandalism warnings, I didn't mean to change the warning intentionally. I added my warning, but must have missed the one you added. A more serious warning is better anyway. Mpvide65 (talk) 17:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
- That's what I thought. I generally give overtly racist vandals only one chance at reform. Acroterion (talk) 17:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
RE-POST AARON NO ONE
THE REASONING THAT A PERSON IS NOT FAMOUS ENOUGH IS AN ARBITRARY OPINION OF AN ADMINISTRATOR.
I REQUEST THAT "AARON NO ONE" BE RE-POSTED FOR IT'S CULTURAL SIGNIFICANCE IN THE LOS ANGELES AND NEW YORK AREA AND RELATION TO THE ISRAEL CONSULATE GENERAL AS WELL AS THE JEWISH ARTIST NETWORK, A NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION, AND THE COMBINED COMMUNITY AND INTERNATIONAL CONTRIBUTIONS OF EACH OF THESE ENTITIES.
IN ADDITION THE ARTISTIC WORKS OF AARON NO ONE ARE CATALOGED CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE ART WORLD. IN THE STYLE OF ABSTRACT MINIMALISM, WHICH IS DEFINED BY WIKI REFERENCS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Exitnoone1 (talk • contribs) 02:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
- First, don't shout.
- Second, it was deleted as advertising. There were no references to third-party publications documenting this artist, and the article was written in a promotional tone, complete with contact information, which is inappropriate. Thus, the deletion. A referenced article, written in a neutral, non-promotional manner, may very well be welcome. As it stood, it was unencyclopedic advertising. Acroterion (talk) 02:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
User:Rconklin2011
Account is being used for vandalism only. Multiple warnings given. --Terrillja (talk) 15:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, blocked. Thanks, Acroterion (talk) 15:31, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Charlotte Ronson Article
Why did you delete the original article, because no reason was given except for that the article was requested for deletion. I'd like an explanation...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theydiskox (talk • contribs) 03:05, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- It was blanked by the original author, Gryffindorgrabber (talk · contribs) on the second edit, valid grounds for an uncontroversial delete. I see you've created it anew, which appears to be perfectly fine. Is there a problem? Acroterion (talk) 03:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- The original article consisted in its entirety of: "Charlotte Ronson is the twin sister of DJ Samantha Ronson. She is the sister of music producer, Mark Ronson, daughter of Ann Dexter-Jones and Laurence Ronson. She lives in NYC and is a model." Hardly a substantial article, or one which indicates that the subject is notable. Acroterion (talk) 03:12, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Apologies. A few days ago I wrote the article with mostly the same information that I just recently re-added and the deletion log said that you had deleted it. Apparently, it was my own fault and I never posted it in the first place! So again, apologies for blaming you for my own mistake.
Theydiskox (talk) 03:19, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- No problem: I will note that the article has been deleted before for copyright problems, so you should make sure there are no issues of that kind. Acroterion (talk) 03:20, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Umm, the image: you say "(Charlotte Ronson Jean Baptiste Lacroix/Wireimage)" in the permissions. Did you take the picture, or did it come from another source? Acroterion (talk) 03:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
I responded on my own page, however since you posed the question on both your own and my talk pages, I suppose I should respond on this page as well. No, the image is not my own, however I was unsure of what to tag the picture is (although the tag I did use didn't say it was my own personal picture.) I gave credit where credit was due, i.e. Jean Baptiste Lacroix/Wireimage.Theydiskox (talk) 04:00, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Rename EricDiesel to Tautologist
Re- Rename- Thanks.
- I have three additinal questions
- 1- How do I notify someone that I left a message in a new section of their talk page, or is a notification automatically generated to them?
- I've used the {{talkback|username}} }} template with success - I think it's been used on you talkpage by a few users.
- 2- Where is the grammar and syntax info located regarding Wiki word processors, and mathematical or other symbols?
- If you use WP:wikED, you can pick formatting off the menus. I find it annoying, but you can enable it under user preferences, gadgets. Help:Wikitext examples has a lot of information concerning wikitext with links to other places. There's also Help:Editing. You should have a bar of menu items at the top of the edit window that will help with formatting in any case: it starts with bold.
- 3- How do I know a question is answered for a single talk page section, without putting a general watch on the whole talk page, like this one? EricDiesel (talk) 16:23, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't know of a way to add only a page section to a watchlist - it's a pretty crude tool that asks the user to do most of the filtering.
- Hope this helps. Acroterion (talk) 17:16, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Thnx Tautologist (talk) 17:52, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- I coulndt read "The %#@*&! servers seem to be borked", since my reading ability is borken, my having dylesxia (my wonderful ex-girlfriend had real dylesxia so bad she really accidentally coined that word). How do I "register" User:EricDiesel, as it redirects to User:Tautologist? Tautologist (talk) 18:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- Go to Special:UserLogin/signup and sign up like you originally did. Just keep in mind that the old account should be claimed and then left alone.
- Bork, bork, bork. Makes me think of The Swedish Chef, who was apparently really said Bort! I've been ignorant for 40 years, and now I'm corrected by Wikipedia. You say borten, I say borken. Acroterion (talk) 19:09, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- I coulndt read "The %#@*&! servers seem to be borked", since my reading ability is borken, my having dylesxia (my wonderful ex-girlfriend had real dylesxia so bad she really accidentally coined that word). How do I "register" User:EricDiesel, as it redirects to User:Tautologist? Tautologist (talk) 18:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
McCain
I created a one sentence story "McCain calls for friday debate delay" at Wikinews, but it is not showing up on the general news. Did I make an error? Tautologist (talk) 19:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- I have no idea - I've never participated over there. I'm not certain I even have an account. Acroterion (talk) 20:07, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
UnionBS
would you rather I delete the Board of director's letter...I though it was helpful... — Preceding unsigned comment added by UnionBS (talk • contribs)
Article San Gabriel Timberland Reserve
I have rewritten this piece, still need work under history,but it is better than it was. My question is: what Wikiproject would it fall under? It kind of fits into public land legislation and history of US geography and protected areas, etc. I can't find a comparable article that has a project banner for guidance about this. Please respond on my talk page. Best Regards, Marcia Wright (talk) 17:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- WP:WikiProject Protected areas would be my guess, but only because I participate there. It is much better now, although I take issue with idea that forests aren't herded: haven't you heard of the Shepherds of the Trees? Acroterion (talk) 17:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- If there isn't a Wikipedia article about it, it doesn't exist. -FisherQueen (talk ·contribs) 17:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Piped links can make anything exist. Acroterion (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- If there isn't a Wikipedia article about it, it doesn't exist. -FisherQueen (talk ·contribs) 17:52, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Rofl !! And thank you for the compliment. I put the PA banner on the talk page, and went to look for the article on next reserve established after San Gabriel which was the huge Sierra Forest Reserve, and guess what? Nada.
- (groan) Can I get a $700 billion dollar bailout too for my work on Wikipedia???? ;) Marcia Wright (talk) 17:50, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
- Well, since the articles on Blue and Sun are written, we have to work harder to be pioneers in new articles. Acroterion (talk) 18:21, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Scrucker
Why did you delete this immediately before I even got to edit the page content? This is not a joke, this is a legit word for many people who attend school at SIUE, SWIC, and high schools in the area of the suburbs of St.Louis, and also many different families and age groups. This word is used in over 4 counties in Illinois (Madison,Macoupin, Montgomery, St. Clair). It is also used in Missouri and Tennessee to this point and will never be allowed in a dictionary unless it gets more exposure. Please allow this page to be made —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdgotc (talk • contribs) 02:22, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- 1) Wikipedia is not a dictionary, it's an encyclopedia.
- 2) Wikipedia is not for "exposure". Come back when the word has currency.
- 3) Sources, please.
- 3) "Over 4 counties?" Acroterion (talk) 02:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
It's a word that was invented and spread, just like every other word in the English language started. Get off your power trip, it's not a big deal to you because it is foreign to you. I love your list by the way, and if its not like a dictionary, what happens when you type the word "hunger" answer that for me.
edit: some portions of the site do exist like a dictionary
- Again, sources? Three articles in independent media with a reputation for fact checking? And somehow
"Scrucker" is of similar stature to the concept of Hunger? There is a difference between an encyclopedia and a dictionary. Acroterion (talk) 02:38, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Of course, your genius missed the point of my example, you enter in a search on wikipedia for any item and it gives a description of what your looking for, come on now, actually think about it. Not scrucker being similiar to hunger, its what the site does for any word. "Sources?" I told you it was an invented word created in the midwest, you want CNN to publish a story about it or what, how can you source something new? How do you source an adjective(that my friend is a description of someone)?Did someone have to source the word "time" (seriously think about how someone described this when it was first idealized, how could you source that?) I am correct in this matter, it just seems youve alreay made up your mind. I plead for open-mindedness and unbias, I'm really not trying to argue for something to do, many people want to make a page for this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdgotc (talk • contribs) 02:48, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Invented word? Read Wikipedia is not for things you made up one day.
- Verifiabilty? Read Verifiability. This is a non-negotiable Wikipedia policy. Time has 51 references and a bibliography.
- If CNN has published a story about it, that would be wonderful, because that's exactly the kind of sourcing we like.
- Wikipedia is not a place to create notability or to promote a neologism. Acroterion (talk) 02:58, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Here is a thought, maybe time has that many references and a bibliography because it's been around forever, again you miss the point, I was talking about when spread of the word and its meaning was manifesting. CNN did not publish a story about scrucker, but you already knew that. We did not make this up in one day, the spread has taken place over years, (5 if you want a number). I'm sorry that the creation of this page would bother you so much, way to flex your digital muscle! Your the WikiGod, congratulations!
- Have you read the submission requirements I provided? They are requirements. Not debatable. If and when there are verifable sources, the word is welcome. Language changes, and instances of new words are welcome, provided you cite sources in compliance with our editing requirements. We get all kinds of articles on all sorts of nonsense, and much of it gets deleted - about 1000 articles a day. How else are we to maintain a credible encyclopedia if we don't require references? There's no other way to tell the good from the bad. Acroterion (talk) 03:12, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I see your point of view now. I have two honest questions though, just want your opinion:
1. How do you supposed I could attain a source for this? It is credible, just not something that would be printed in articulate journalism, unless a complete article is done on the word.
2. If it was used in a sentence,(without a definition) in an article as an adjective, is that credible as a source just by the use?
Any ideas, advice, or "loopholes" that you know of that could help us?
Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdgotc (talk • contribs) 03:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for working with me here. We really do like to see articles on the new and strange, but we still have to maintain standards. No loopholes, and we don't permit original research. I do, in fact, believe that the word is current in your area. Unfortunately, a Google search gets only 48 hits, and some are on some sort of scooter-truck. The rest appear to be blogs and hence useless, but I didn't look at every last one. I'd expect to see hundreds of hits if it was a really current word. Still, have a look through Google. You'd have to show via references that it was being used extensively and consistently, and you're still in dictionary territory with it (see WP:DICDEF - I finally found the most relevant policy - we have hundreds, you know). Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Also, please sign your comments at the end with four tildes - ~~~~ - so %$#@! SineBot doesn't edit-conflict me when I reply. Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for working with me here. We really do like to see articles on the new and strange, but we still have to maintain standards. No loopholes, and we don't permit original research. I do, in fact, believe that the word is current in your area. Unfortunately, a Google search gets only 48 hits, and some are on some sort of scooter-truck. The rest appear to be blogs and hence useless, but I didn't look at every last one. I'd expect to see hundreds of hits if it was a really current word. Still, have a look through Google. You'd have to show via references that it was being used extensively and consistently, and you're still in dictionary territory with it (see WP:DICDEF - I finally found the most relevant policy - we have hundreds, you know). Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to be a bother, but I see you were the most recent admin to block this user. (User talk:71.248.62.143) Just wanted to let you know that his 1 week block has expired and he's promptly started adding nonsense (bogus episode info) onto the article he's been repeatedly blocked over. Am I ok letting you know or do I need to post this some place official? (Always trying to learn how things run here) Thank you for your time. Dp76764 (talk) 17:59, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- You can post it at WP:3RR for more eyes. Just looking at it I couldn't make heads or tails of his edits, but edit-warring to insert false information will earn a lengthy block. I assume the references are not useful? Acroterion (talk) 19:18, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
- Not sure if he's up to the point of actually 'warring' today (though he seems to definitely be on a long-term campaign). It looks like his recent 'additions' were fake: ie, he copied the reference number and pasted it in on 3 'episodes' that don't actually exist. And thanks for the advice =) I will post on the 3RR board if he continues. Dp76764 (talk) 19:29, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
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For protecting my user page from vandalism by a previously block single-purpose-account vandal. Bearian (talk) 20:34, 29 September 2008 (UTC) |
- Thanks, much appreciated! Acroterion (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Please consider placing the template:
Speedy deletion of Harry Smeegleburgen
But he was my grandfather !
- Your grandfather was a lesbian? Do tell. Acroterion (talk) 02:04, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
Pringle Wang
Patent nonsense? Discuss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N3ptun0x (talk • contribs) 07:40, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Interesting as its played by many, many people...most of whom I do not know personally. In any event, I bow to your logic. Ciao. N3ptun0x (talk) 13:55, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- For a game made up in the last four weeks, it's spreading like wildfire. I therefore await its inevitable coverage in third-party sources. Acroterion (talk) 14:07, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Much obliged to you. N3ptun0x (talk) 14:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
On zzuzz talk page aggression
Sorry, bloke, this ain't gonna happen again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.68.83.254 (talk) 19:23, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- Really? How do you explain this [1] and this [2]? Acroterion (talk) 19:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Pardon
Pardon, mais je ne vais pas faire cette vandalism une autre fois.
How come do you know every single movement of mine, pal?
- Yet again, I am disappointed by your insincere promises. Therefore, you're blocked. And I have magical powers, that's how. Acroterion (talk) 19:50, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Why was the Melissa Roll atricle deleted?
What was blatent advertising about it? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MeHhappy44 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
- You are using Wikipedia to promote a non-notable, unsourced Internet meme. Acroterion (talk) 22:00, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Why was my page deleted.
I am pissed that my page was deleted. It was not for promotional use. It was on http://www.applefox.biz.vi. It was only information. It did not say oh look at this site go here. Further more what the hell is this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CNET_Networks . It is made the same way as my site it has just been added on to more. In NO way was my site for promotional use. It was just explaining what the site was all about. And why the hell would I advertise on this overrated incorrect half the time piece of junk site. If I wanted to advertise then don't you think I could do It by putting goggles code on my site. I am so glad you feel all high and mighty deleting non developed sites. Glad you could get some good jollies off of mine. Thanks for nothing. I will tell everyone On the site to never use this crappy ass site ever again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Applefox (talk • contribs) 00:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't use CNET Networks as an example: it's shudder a godawful article. You might want to read our requirements for web notability at WP:WEB. Your article did not meet the requirements set forth there. I also saw your article as promotional, although on further consideration it met deletion criteria for web content more clearly than as promotion. Keep in mind that Wikipedia documents notability that already exists and has been noted in independent media, not potential notability. I sympathize with your frustration, but notability is a requirement for inclusion. Acroterion (talk) 00:50, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Nice article on Cain House
Hello! I was doing New Page Patrol and I spotted your Cain House article. I just joined up WikiProject Freemasonry, so the subject was of personal interest. But even if I was not a member of that WikiProject, I would still have to say it is a fine addition to the project. Thanks for bringing that online! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
![](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/85/Smiley.svg/62px-Smiley.svg.png)
Ecoleetage (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.
- Thanks! I've been working on a lot of West Virginia NRHP articles, since West Virginia has the nominations online and there is abundant documentation. I must confess, I chose a county with only two properties on purpose so I could say I finished a county today, though. Low expectations are a virtue. Thanks for the compliment! Acroterion (talk) 12:37, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, feel free to add the appropriate masonic lodge-related category: there's got to be a suitable one. Acroterion (talk) 12:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done deal. Thanks again! Ecoleetage (talk) 12:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- By the way, feel free to add the appropriate masonic lodge-related category: there's got to be a suitable one. Acroterion (talk) 12:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Hi
- Hi, please see my contribs in this ip before judging me a vandal. I didn't mean to vandalise Jeffpw's page nor did I harras the user who undid my edits on that page. Hope u dont mind. Thanks. 60.50.66.209 (talk) 14:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)