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Mistake deleting DACS entry

I'll make my case at two levels. First, it might be that I made some technical mistake editing the Danbury Area Computer Society (DACS) entry. I made the change preparing for a talk I'm giving next month on Web 2.0 to illustrate the point Wikipedia information isn't only important, but current I added an entry about a special interest group I've been running for the last two years and was missing because no one was paying attention. I also added our name to the initial search for "DACS". Maybe I didn't do it correctly. Maybe we are signifigant at one level, but not for the initial search. You deleted the page so fast I didn't get a change to explain. I ask for a chance to put it back.

The other, more philosophically is about signifigance. Danbury Area Computer Society is not a little computer club it is a computer society with over 300 members. We publish a small journal. We were one of the first of it's kind, around since the Osburne Micro Computer. Our intrests broad.

"DACS in its present form originated from several local computer organizations: the Danbury Computer Society (DCS), Western Connecticut Micro-computer Users Group formerly the Danbury Osborne Group (DOG); Danbury Area Users Group (DAUG); and the Macintosh Users Group of Greater Danbury (MUGGeD.) "[1]

Since the 1980's we have been a resource of technical information in South West Connecticut. We are a 501C orginazation not affiliated with any profit making organization.

You have a somewhat philosophical question about the direction of Wikipedia if you aren't going to allow societies like DACS to be listed. We may be a little small by Wikipedia standards, our history, though dating from the micro computer's birth short, and our collective technical expertise though not world class is pretty solid. In my opinion we are in the high end of the long tail and definitely more significant than many other entries I've seen. But as an avid Wikipedia user I realize it won't exist if it goes too far out because that tail keeps getting longer. As an editor in this editor less phenomena you've got a hard job.

John Lansdale , CDP, MCP, DACs Board Memebr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanzdale (talkcontribs) 18:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

First of all, sometimes we delete things before they've developed far enough - you wouldn't believe what we get in the way of new articles, particularly from garage bands and gaming clans. You have my apologies if the article was deleted too soon.
Second, you still have to meet notability standards for inclusion. A local 300-member club (computers, or anything else) just doesn't meet those standards, unless it has received coverage in third-party media, preferably of national standing, and preferably from multiple sources. If your organization is notable, then you should be able to provide such references. Please remember, we're building an encyclopedia, not a directory, and while we're free of the limitations of a paper encyclopedia, we do have basic requirements for articles. Please review WP:NOTABILITY, and if you have sources to meet those requirements, I'll be happy to review them. Regards, Acroterion (talk) 18:53, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh, after reading NOTABILITY, that's easy. Our name is fairly well known in Southern Connecitut and Northern NY City suburbs (a very large population). We are mentioned regurally in the press and on the web. Also you'll see many people use it in resumes and briefs. Google "DACS danbury", "DACS society", or even "DACS", you'll see our page rank and number of times linked is quite high. Your criticism our topic seems too much like a "directoy" entry may be valid, we need some work. But the subject is something people are going to hear about from other sources and want to know more. We do appear as news in the local Danbury News Times (cir. 30,000) [2] and have been reported in larger publications but I can't verify exact references. How are we supposed to show (snail) newspaper references in wikipedia anyway? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanzdale (talkcontribs) 20:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I wouldn't say that locally well known is quite enough, even if it's the 'burbs of New York . Also, while Google page rank helps, it is not in itself a qualifier. Relative to "the subject is something people are going to hear about from other sources", you'll want to provide those sources. The Danbury News Times may help, but it's the local paper, and it would be odd if they didn't cover you from time to time. Have you appeared in the Hartford Courant or the New York Times? Those would be excellent sources, especially since you can link to the online refs. Check WP:REFERENCE for a (long, complicated) guide to wiki-referencing. In-line refs are best. Acroterion (talk) 20:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~), or @#$%*! Sinebot will edit-conflict my replies. Acroterion (talk) 20:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia needs the kind of work you're doing. It also needs this discussion about the significance, case and instance, of the Danbury Area Computer Society (DACS) as a topic. I don't want to do this hastily as a drawn out dialectic based on my memories and your personal ideas of significance. Standing on the bully pulpit you'll win and we both might loose. I've linked this conversation out to our board of directors and will have it brought up as a topic for discussion at our next meeting. Maybe we have to ask ourselves the same question you have. Also, more research into Wikipedia is needed. With your forebearance I/we'll return later in the month and finish this. 68.199.64.168 (talk) 19:39, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
I appreciate the thought and consideration you've put into this discussion, and I assure you that I'm in no way prejudiced against your article's re-creation with appropriate sourcing and indications of notability. If you wish, I can restore the article for discussion before a wider audience at WP:AFD, although I would advise against it at present, since a negative result (as seems likely) at AfD would be seen as prejudicial to re-creation. Take your time, and I'd be happy to review any proposed content, or to refer it to another editor for other opinions. Regards, Acroterion (talk) 19:51, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
BTW In the back and forwardness of this exchange there's a whole other aspect I've ignored. DACS is independent, non-profit, old (one of the first - to be documented), and (unlike it's big cousin the Boston Area Computer Society) still active. Most importantly throughout most of the time we have published our own monthly publication (a cut above the average newsletter) [DacsDoc] with technical information and commentary on developments of the day. At one time circulation was close to 1000, today it's down to about 200 but still healthy. DacsDoc and the Danbury Area Computer Society is the first place anyone wanting to do a history of personal computing should start. Our independence is unusual and we are both a recorded and living history. [The documents speak for themselves. (Last 10 years in pdf)]

I have noted the absence in Wikipedia of a few other area pioneer computer user groups. As a veteran of many of these as well as newer ones I don't think the Wikipedia Users' group topic comes close to conveying the idea. Most important (just like the Wikipedia) is the amount of credible information they convey (have conveyed) and their power over people's tech spending.

I also realize that rather than trying to get a topic about ourselves in Wikipedia we should (with considerable cleaning of style) be contributing to Wikipedia first and sending copies to our DacsDoc. The improved quality might help as well.

On the down side we are worried because to Wikipedia there is no official DACS so even if we can make a good post, someone else with an honest disagreement might change it unexpecdidly. We would have to monitor all the time.

How would we restart our topic from a new aspect? Would it be automatically deleted or would we have a chance for change and public review?

Lanzdale (talk) 19:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

No, it wouldn't (or shouldn't) be automatically tagged, as long as there's an assertion of notability and some form of backup (as we've discussed) to sustain the assertion. However, remember that this is a wiki, and anybody can edit the article once posted. Obvious vandalism may be reverted, but you will not "own" the article. Acroterion (talk) 16:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
Erie thinking about it. DACS is a 501c organization with bylaws and a board of directors. We talk in turn, approximatly to Roberts Rules of Order. We have elections. In the Wikipedia model DACS or any other orginization dosen't exist as a single entity. A new social order is implied. For now it works because enough people don't know about it.

In the long term though Wikipedia's got a problem if official entries by an orginization can be overridden by individuals. Or maybe the world's got one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.64.168 (talk) 17:34, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a wiki, so anybody can edit an article. Wikis depend on the collective wisdom of the group to maintain order. There is no such thing as an "official entry", and beyond biography of living persons issues, people directly involved in a given article are discouraged from editing them.
I could write all evening on the faults and shortcomings of wikis, but on the whole, I think it does a pretty good job. Your article will have to stand on its own in the view of the community: I merely advise, and won't tag or delete it since at this point, I have too much involvement to properly do so. Others may, though. Acroterion (talk) 22:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

regarding Kellylyn93

I just wanted to say that I noticed User:Kellylyn93's most recent edits, and I was trying to explain why they were problematic. Maybe I was giving too much good faith in an editor with such an extensive set of blocks and talk page warnings, but I did want to note that the disruptive edits stopped after my warning, and that the user was communicating back with me. I would have blocked the user myself if the disruption continued, but I personally do not think it had reached the point (in that they hadn't edited negatively since my warning). I don't know if that is enough to convince you to reverse your block (and I personally respect your ability to use your sysop tools responsibly, so I am not pleading with you to unblock or anything). I also think it is inappropriate the way the user is reacting to the block, and making demands. Anyway, just some things to think about. -Andrew c [talk] 21:44, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to unblock: I take no joy in blocking people, and if you think she can be educated, it's fine with me. Acroterion (talk) 22:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Although now we're "bitches". I see little hope here. Still, she's your project if you want to try. Acroterion (talk) 22:22, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
For the sake of history, I was acting on Scarian's report to AIV. It may have been a trifle early, and I apologize for stepping on your toes while you were working with this user. Acroterion (talk) 22:30, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Understood. Thanks for the reply. I think now that things are done, an unblock would be premature because the user is clearly worked up and would need to calm down. The personal attacks clearly don't help matters. I'll leave a message to the user to try and explain things.-Andrew c [talk] 22:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

for protecting my talk page, that IP is User:Mark753. He claims to not understand why his IP addresses don't get indef blocked. The nutter! KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 07:45, 1 January 2008 (UTC) Being nice to the vandals/trolls can only be taken so far ;)

Help!

Could you tell me if non admins are allowed to give barnstars and how do you become an admin? Nintendogeek —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nintendogeek (talkcontribs) 23:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Anybody can award barnstars, although it's best if they're given for something that's meaningful, rather than in a drive-by fashion.
Administrators are trusted members of the community who have proven through their contributions that they have good judgment and a thorough knowledge of Wikipedia policy. They generally have at least 3000 edits and have contributed significant encyclopedic content. Administrators must be approved through a request for adminship by the community. See WP:ADMIN for more information. In practice, we're more like janitors and have only three additional abilities that regular editors do not: the ability to delete an article, protect an article, and block users. Acroterion (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks User:Nintendogeek —Preceding comment was added at 10:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again but can you tell me how to delete a page?Nintendogeek —Preceding comment was added at 06:15, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

You can't, that's an admin tool. You can tag a page for deletion, so that an admin will see it, if it meets speedy deletion criteria, or you can propose it for deletion. See WP:DELETE. Acroterion (talk) 12:30, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Terry Goodkind

Thanks! I get the feeling FQ's page gets more traffic than WP:AIV :) WLU (talk) 17:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

That's because it's way more entertaining, and she's using a MacBook. You may disagree about Part 2, though. Acroterion (talk) 18:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Part 2? Does not compute. Probably because I'm using a mac... WLU (talk) 18:05, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Part 2 = " ... and she's using a MacBook". Acroterion (talk) 18:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
I've just spent about an hour trimming down a list of fish diseases. Gimme a break :) Thanks for the revert! WLU (talk) 18:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
No wonder. Don't get ich! Acroterion (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Easily the worst disease name, ever - sounds gross, and not particularly descriptive. And I never should have looked at the large version of this picture. Ew. Don't look if you have a distaste for partially-dissolved tuna flesh. Can you block people? How about this person? WLU (talk) 18:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

<undent>Oops, ne'er mind, already done. WLU (talk) 18:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

A bit late, but

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. :) — NovaDog(contribs) 20:17, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome - no hurry in any case. Acroterion (talk) 20:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

DudsmumishotterthanKB

Thank you for deleting the article dudsmumishotterthanKB, otherwise I would have responded back to the author in a mean way. (It's hard for me to stare at attacking comments directed at me).Monkeytheboy (talk) 20:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

A thick skin is essential around these parts. After a while you just go ... meh, not very original. Acroterion (talk) 21:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

All in a days' work. I might just steal your nice concise barnstar formatting, as soon as I figure it out. Acroterion (talk) 22:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for answering AznMadness42's question on my talk page. You're welcome to steal my barnstar formatting (sorry for the delay, I didn't realize you replied). It's based upon Omicronpersei8's user page back in early October mixed up with notation from service star. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 07:04, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Adorableness Meter Talk Page

I think you may have forgotten to delete the talk page for the article. :) Alloranleon (talk) 22:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you should create a page on the Snide-O-Meter? :-) Acroterion (talk) 23:16, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
Touche! Lol. No snidery or offense was intended. Cheers. Alloranleon (talk) 23:22, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
None taken: the deleted page made my teeth hurt. Acroterion (talk) 23:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Dude

Dude, he was my friend, the one I edited about Arsene Wenger and the johnson thing. It was a fucking joke. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.24.31.152 (talk) 03:34, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Not on an IP talk page where the assignment can be changed - people get upset when they see joke warnings like that when they weren't involved. Acroterion (talk) 03:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Once more thank you

for your diligence in upholding the gold standard on Wikipedia. I've left our friend the message that he seems to desire so much, even though as I've already told him, most of it has been said already.

*shrug*

Again I doubt he'll truly be able to stay true to his word and just be off with some pride, but then again I've been wrong before. :P Happy editing, and thanks for being a top notch editor. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 18:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello Sir,

It appears that you somewhat hastily removed our attempts of educating and informing the world of the very noteworthy and hillarious exploits of the Lords of Ganar. Had you given more than a second to consider that we are in the early stages of applying our work, and that the independant research we have accumulated over the past 2 weeks will take time to edit. May i request you reconsider to at least let us present our portfoilio. I feel we have alot to offer and it would be a shame indeed for us to be refused the right to share the wonderful world of Lords of Ganar.

Thankyou

Mr Manders —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toerag135 (talkcontribs) 22:49, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Please read our requirements for the notability of organizations. I am sure your club is fascinating, but it does not appear to be ready for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Regards, Acroterion (talk) 22:55, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for helping in the CIA chaos

IIt's becoming almost impossible to track what is happening in the edit wars over the CIA articles, but it appears you were putting in some stability. For that, I thank you.

It seemed wise and civil for me to touch base with everyone involved in this situation, hoping that some personal contact may calm the storming seas. I can only say that my intention, in working with original CIA articles and those that I spun off when it became impossibly large, is to improve NPOV and reliable sourcing. I would be happy to have any rational discussion on the issues, be they in talk pages or email.

If I have an agenda, it is to introduce, into discussion of "CIA", that it does not always act unilaterally, but is following directions from the White House, and that it does things, such as !surprise! intelligence analysis. That agenda, unfortunately, appears to conflict with some that have a POV that the CIA is the incarnation of evil, any allegation of impropriety must be true, and to question this is "whitewashing". The CIA, and the US government, have, at times, done ugly things, but things of beauty at other times. In other words, I see this area in shades of gray, rather than blackening or whitewashing. TS Eliot's phrase "An Infinity of Mirrors" has been used, more than once, to describe the world of intelligence, which is not always a secret one.

Again, thanks for being bold enough to be involved in this mess. I hope we can get it back to some level of civility and valued content, perhaps with some way to link to the questionable allegations that some people want present, with perhaps less reliable sourcing. You may have noticed that the Military History project has started an Intelligence Task Force, and we are trying to improve the content of quite a few articles, not CIA alone. Unfortunately, some Wikipedia content in this area is more based on Hollywood than reality.

And yes...sometimes I believe reality is a crutch for those who cannot handle science fiction. :-)

Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 23:26, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I've mainly been involved in vandalism reverts and removal of obvious tinfoil hattery where this article is concerned. I do not presently have an opinion on the content or organization of the article, except to point out that if an edit war breaks out (it's not there yet), I'll protect the Wrong Version and force discussion over to the talk page. I would observe that less individual interest in the motivations of editors and more collaborative interest in content would be a step forward. Acroterion (talk) 01:46, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Again, thank you. If there is a way to encourage collaboration, I would welcome it. I certainly agree that the subject is not black and white, but the deletion of long articles and redirecting them back to the main CIA article cuts off any chance of discussing the contents beyond content-free allegations of "whitewash". Suggestions would be helpful. I have avoided making any edits myself to avoid inflaming the situation further, but have been trying individual appeals. There are a couple of people doing massive deletions and redirections that I can't seem to interest in collaborative discussion, and I would welcome any assistance in moving in that direction.
If I find something to be in the tinfoil category, and ask for sources, or offer sources as alternatives, in all sincerity, how would you suggest I respond to brushoffs with "whitewash"? In the pages that have been deleted or redirected, there are extensive excerpts from, and links to, substantive declassified material, or observations from reasonably neutral media.
The best example I can offer about attempt to get to NPOV is in the (redirected and unreachable, possibly deleted) CIA Activities in Asia-Pacific#Indonesia (I think that's the section, but since I can't see it, I can't be sure it is the right wikilink. In that section, there are subsections dealing with CIA activities, as well as intelligence estimates, for 1958, and then 1964-1965. Declassified US documents and related material show that there was a failed attempt at regime change in 1958. The 1964 and 1965 analyses of the problem suggested strengthening some opposition parties, but failed to recognize the apparently indigenous and incredibly bloody purge/civil war between the military and Communist party. If documenting a failed attempt at regime change, going through the US estimates about how the political process might develop, and then an unexpected purge is whitewashing the CIA, I am either Arnold Schwarzenegger or Madonna in their prime; I'm confused enough not to know which. :-) Seriously, this is material that is being blocked from being seen and collaboration begun. Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 01:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

IP edits

Really, was that you as an IP? (Bangs head). Acroterion (talk) 05:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Yep, hope your head is okay. Trav (talk) 05:19, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
My head's OK - I was just going to leave you a nice note thanking you for your help, and realized that all the Travb posts were left by an IP. While it looked like you, this sort of discussion needs to take place as a logged-in user. I've run across a couple of impersonators of other users, and they can really cause chaos and hard feelings - the last thing we need. I wouldn't care if we were discussing how much you liek teh mudkipz ...
Anyway, thanks, and while I don't expect you and HBerkowitz to agree on everything, I appreciate the moves toward cooperation on all sides. Acroterion (talk) 16:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
Also, I'll choose to ignore the comments on AN/I: any IP signing as a registered user can expect to be blocked for impersonation and disruption. Acroterion (talk) 17:11, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

My Article

I'm rather dissappointed because I typed that whole article to inform people of the various problems of free hosting and put one sentence in the article with a link to a hosting site I help administrate. The main goal of the article was to inform people, not to promote a site, but the link is nice to have in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigalan6622 (talkcontribs) 04:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Wkipedia is not a how-to guide. The creation of an article on cheap web hosting, linking to your web hosting service, is advertising, and a conflict of interest. Acroterion (talk) 14:37, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
ok sorry, i don't get it though because wikipedia links to all kinds of sites but what ever, what you say goes and I will respect that.

Thanks, Alan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigalan6622 (talkcontribs) 00:42, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

You might want to look at WP:EL for guidelines on external links. Any promotional piece with a single link to the author's company's going to be viewed as advertising. Regards, Acroterion (talk) 02:57, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

why!

forgive me but im rather annoyed you deleted my first post on xbox 360. i saw nothing wrong with that and became angry, making abusive comments with the last post. Apple pie post was my friend on my account, apologies for that —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ieaturine (talkcontribs) 13:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a userguide or a forum for complaints about products, and the creation of an article with a misspelling as an attack page is not permitted. Please change your password to prevent others from abusing the account, and please refrain from including your personal analysis in articles, or creating articles as a forum. Acroterion (talk) 14:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
A less obnoxious username would increase your credibility. Acroterion (talk) 14:39, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank for acting to help curb the spate of vandalism. Cheers, JNW (talk) 15:55, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy to oblige: Kos has a way of attracting vandals, so he's one my matchlist. Acroterion (talk) 16:09, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy Couple

You mentioned having run into Happy Couple (talk · contribs) previously, so I was wondering if you might have any insight on the current unblock request at User talk:Happy Couple2. – Luna Santin (talk) 22:38, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

I ran across them/him/her at WP:Articles_for_deletion/NCSE_Grand_Canyon_Raft_Trip where HC appeared as a knowledgeable SPA with an unclear agenda, then disappeared. Filll's comment on the account's userpage "I guess this is going to end up with more trouble like the last time however" and the mention of contacting an employer did not seem like good things. The RfArb mentions these circumstances. Acroterion (talk) 23:23, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh ok

well I don't know anything, I'm not a wikpedian i guess im logged in as "Niyant," oops this is not his/her fault the site was already logged into his account. im at the library —Preceding unsigned comment added by Niyant (talkcontribs) 20:32, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Heinrich Hertz

Please consider re-visiting Talk:Heinrich Hertz#jewish ancestry. I'd be interested in your feedback about the suggested edit strategy I've proposed. --Ooperhoofd (talk) 15:47, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

I've never participated in that article, as far as I can tell, but I'll take a look. Acroterion (talk) 15:59, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Account Infiltrated

Thanks for blocking me temporarily, I have read my contributions and am pretty much up to speed on the situation. However, I don't know what do to from here. Please reply [3]. thanks Niyant 20:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Antebellum Bulldogs

I tried to be objective in the description and information is verifiable, why does it sound like an advertisement to you? Help me understand what you want and I will correct. v/r Canis Pugnax (talk) 05:00, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

It appears to be an ad for Antebellum Bulldogs, and is verging on spam; indeed, I am inclined to tag it thus. Acroterion (talk) 05:02, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
Deleted - please do not advertise your kennel on Wikipedia. The article is strictly concerned with the dogs from this kennel. Unless there is verifiable, reliable third-party evidence of notability (and it is provided with the article), the material should not be posted. Acroterion (talk) 05:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Your response sounds very rude. I have attempted to build it as informative, not an advertisement. Iridescent and Khukri provided insite and assistance, you just cracked your whip. What gives? All of the information is verifiable. Tell me what you want. Canis Pugnax (talk) 05:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

No rudeness intended, and my apologies for expressing myself poorly. However, the article appears to be an advertisement for a specific kennel's dogs. That isn't what Wikipedia is for. The previous issues seem to have been copyright issues; we have now reached the heart of the matter: what is (verifiably in third-party sources) unique and worthy of an encyclopedia? Is the article a promotion of Antebellum Bulldogs (the kennel)? That's how I read it. Please see WP:SPAM and WP:NOTABILITY. Acroterion (talk) 05:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
If you can create an article that manages to document (with suitable sources that aren't derived from a promotional website) the Altamaha Plantation Dog - and does not promote Antebellum Bulldogs - then you will be making progress. Acroterion (talk) 05:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

re:Deuteronomy

I understand that you didn't create the article, but by the time that I arrived at it, the article was devoid of content except for your prod and the article history had nothing preceding your tag. My guess is that it was speedy deleted while you were tagging it. Nevertheless, the article that I tagged was appropriate for A3, since it had nothing in it but your tag. I apologize for the "warning" message, Twinkle just generates them automatically and I certainly meant no offense. Lordjeff06 (talk) 19:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Aha: I understand. I've had similar experiences with Twinkle. I was unhappy with the article because two editors were getting into a pointy discussion: one had tagged it as an attack page, which it clearly wasn't (at least objectively viewed) regardless of any further absence of merit. Acroterion (talk) 19:45, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. I never actually saw the article (or the discussion) as previously constituted. Lordjeff06 (talk) 19:58, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Not worth all the trouble for any of us. Happy editing, Acroterion (talk) 20:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry Acroterion (talk) I actually thought it was vandalism. I apologized to User talk:67.171.170.241 on his/her talk page also. Shoessss |  Chat  02:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

So did I: we all make mistakes. 95% of the time, that would be an "on wheels" vandal fixing things to their version - the other 5% of the time, we apologize and go on. Acroterion (talk) 02:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Wackerbarth-Palais

A proposed deletion template has been added to the article Wackerbarth-Palais, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but this article may not satisfy Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and the deletion notice should explain why (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. If you agree with the deletion of the article, and you are the only person who has made substantial edits to the page, please add {{db-author}} to the top of Wackerbarth-Palais. Kannie | talk 02:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Hemphead

I'm sure he's coherent sometimes; but his talk page is a mess, and his attitude apparently likewise. I'm lucky in that I only edit sometimes under the affluence of incohol, which means I sometimes say things I shouldn't. However, although blocking is not meant to be punitive, there is an issue of protecting the encyclopedia. You're an admin, and I am not. If you feel his disruption outweighs his contributions, I wouldn't disagree with a block. Your call. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 02:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

If he cleans up the edit summaries, edits constructively, and stops spamming, he'll be fine. If he does any of those things again, boom. It's not like he's not been warned. I have to admit he was amusing at first, but I've deleted about half a dozen spam articles of his. I believe I'll have a nice drink now, after all this discussion of mood alteration. Acroterion (talk) 02:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
I, too, have my limits on acceptability. It's not as if he hadn't had enough shots across the bows. You were entirely correct in blocking him. Dopeheads, in my experience, if they're capable of editing an encyclopedia, however badly, are also capable of realising that there's a problem. The yellow banner "You have new messages" should tell them that, but chances are they'll just giggle a lot and fall over a lot. Ho hum. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 03:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Question re RfA page

Excuse me, I see that you're an admin who seems to be online at the moment so I wonder if I could just ask you a question. By the way, LOL about remembering when a control key really controlled something! At this RfA, in response to the candidate's answer to Q10, I inserted further questions asking for clarification. Should I give my questions a separate question number, or move them to the discussion section, or do you think they're OK where they are? Thanks in advance for your opinion! --Coppertwig (talk) 02:44, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

They aren't terribly obvious, so I'd move them to the end and reference them as a follow-up to Q10 . Acroterion (talk) 02:46, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Strike that: do what Pedro did at Q4. Acroterion (talk) 02:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. I didn't want to be doing the wrong thing. --Coppertwig (talk) 02:58, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

This article has been re-created, FYI. I am not familiar enough with dog breeds to know if all the links he added to other articles should be deleted or not. Precious Roy (talk) 22:16, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

The article has been making slow progress from a flat-out copyvio to a promotional article to something less promotional. I don't see it as speedy deletion material anymore. It needs to establish sources and notability. I still think it's for the promotion of a single kennel, but they've made a decent attempt over time of trying to bring it into compliance. I'd suggest AfD at this point. If it's deleted, the links can go. Also VanTucky (talk · contribs) has a lot of experience with dog/cat/horse breed issues: he's worth consulting. Acroterion (talk) 22:23, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Turks in Bulgaria

If you follow the discussion closely, you will see that Nostradamus1 did not answer my reasons for removal twice, so he is the one who has not defended his position. --Gligan (talk) 20:47, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Considering the article just came off a two-week protection for edit-warring, it appears that it's started right back. Keep 3RR in mind (you're up to two), and The Wrong Version may be protected again if a consensus is not reached among editors. Acroterion (talk) 21:03, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
Just a little word from me as well. No consensus could be reached there. The user that reverted Gligan ran out of ideas how to justify the additions he made. We tried to resolve the issue in which try Ilhanli he did not take any part but still reverts the article. --Laveol T 00:04, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I saw no sources for that particular material taht was deleted, and it appeared to be largely opinion, so I merely cautioned. I note that ArbCom has adopted some rather harsh policies for articles about Balkan topics, and any editor can run into trouble there, however well-intentioned. I note also the mediation case, which calls for sources. Edit summaries always help. Acroterion (talk) 01:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

The revert

Thanks! Acalamari 00:27, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. I wrote a lamentation a while back on the subject of colo(u)r here: Talk:Orange (colour)#A Short Lament. Acroterion (talk) 01:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. I think it's time to file a CheckUser request to get the IP of that one hardblocked along with all of the other accounts. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for yet another revert and blocking that IP. This one is not related to the one above (of which the underlying was blocked), but instead somebody else I've been dealing with for the past few weeks. He seems to have focused mainly on me for some unknown reason. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 22:31, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
You've certainly been popular; since KoS has left, I suppose somebody has to be the new focus! Acroterion (talk) 22:41, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Argh, KoS left? Wow, I didn't know that. Bummer. =\ Lucky me with this latest "fan". Oh well, I can outlast them. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for reverting my user page. "Skunk bag" is a new one for me. Never heard of that particular insult. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:42, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Paramour21

He's still at it, trying to blank the talk page. Might I impose on you to step in once more? Thanks. --PMDrive1061 (talk) 16:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay - browser froze up. He seems to have lost interest - one more and it's protected. Acroterion (talk) 16:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA

I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 21:33, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

I'd like to thank you for taking that rude comment off of my talk page. I was just warning that guy that what he did wasn't allowed on that page, and he didn't seem to take it very well. Thanks again! - J-Whitt (talk) 05:00, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Dude

Somehow you think a 15 year old being a Vice President of a Student Council is enough to make the 'Masons' a relevant U.S. political family? Good call. I hope you will allow me to enter myself in then. I am a nephew eight times removed of Patrick J. Kennedy, the Rhode Island Congressman. I request to be entered into the listing since I'm the Sophomore Class President at Clearwater High School. The Kennedy dynasty's relevance continues with me due to my similarly prestigious position. So I don't understand why I should be left out if student government counts.

You are mistaken, I was edit conflicted while removing the reference after reverting the "fucktard " part (which you inserted). Thank you for reverting the vanity edit, and don't insert commentary, please. Acroterion (talk) 02:39, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for taking care of that vandal

Thanks for taking care of that vandal, but please be carefull with autoblocks your Anti-Vandal Salvo hit me in mid revert of the same vandal. Æon Insanity Now! 00:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

You mean there was a rollback conflict, I think? It doesn't look like you got hit by Autoblock. Acroterion (talk) 01:06, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
I was, the IP I use is shared by most of Navy Region SW. It showed as an Autoblock. Æon Insanity Now! 06:52, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
When we enable autoblock on a named account, we don't see the IP, so it's possible to autoblock the US Senate, the nation of Qatar, or Navy Region SW. This is the first time I've encountered this particular issue, and I wasn't sure how you left a message here if you were autoblocked: you should have been able only to edit your talk page. Are you still getting a message? Acroterion (talk) 13:00, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Welcome!

Thanks, Kirill. I thought I'd better sign up after the recent spate of Maginot-related articles - I thought I'd do a dozen or so, but it kept expanding! Acroterion (talk) 22:37, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Just leaving a message

Thank you for fixing my error. I am new here and havn't got time to read the help pages. I signed up for helping Wikipedia to be a better place. Anyways, all I ask is for some quick, short and simple help. Please reply to this message by leaving a message on my talk page. Thank you again! Chimchar monferno (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page [4]. Acroterion (talk) 19:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting hijinx on my user page by Anon. Jacksinterweb (talk) 04:19, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

ski trip usa

i keep getting a quick delete notice stating that it is advertisement are there guidelines i need to follow to post information about a company, i am not trying to market the company just tell why it exists and why it is unique. could you please direct me

--Mdtwn66 (talk) 18:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)jjw

Your article is written as overt advertising. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for promotion or an means to establish notoriety. All articles must meet notability requirements - see WP:NOTABILITY and WP:CORP, as well as WP:SPAM. The article fails inclusion requirements on grounds of advertising and notability as a company. Acroterion (talk) 18:15, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

user 89.26.156.163

After his last comment, I guess I'm not going to get anywhere in helping him(I tried). Auto Cad is cheaper the solidworks isn't it? also If I remember correctly, Solidworks is specialized for mechanical engineers. I'm transferring into mechanical engineering next year so I'm just checking.--Pewwer42  Talk  04:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

We can write him off now, but I thought I'd see if there was some opportunity for redemption. Apparently not - it's clear he can't help trolling and won't stop: Nlu did the right thing.
AutoCAD is hideously expensive if you're buying it for multiple seats as I am; around $4000 for a new seat, and $400/year subscription for upgrades. The student version, at $170 however, is hardly anything - it's the full version and just puts a stamp on every plot saying it's the student version. Otherwise it's got all the features. Don't get LT - while I have it on some stations, it's crippled in certain respects. I've never used Solidworks, it's not really useful for what we do. I'm trying to get us into Revit, which looks promising, if we can get through the transition.
Good luck with the ME: I've known a number of people who transferred out, but never in!. Acroterion (talk) 14:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps this title should be protected? EJF (talk) 21:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Having blocked the user, I agree: I expect it will be re-created at the first opportunity. Acroterion (talk) 21:53, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Article on June Panic

How come you deleted my stub on the artist June Panic? I wrote that the group had releases on Secretly Canadian along with a reference. http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=JUNE%7CPANIC&sql=11:kbftxq9jldde~T2 Confused, UltraCaution (talk) 13:49, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Apart from an infobox, there was no content, just a link, so it fit A3 criteria. I think it needs more than that, even as a stub. I've restored it for the time being, but note that it stil has a speedy tag on it. Acroterion (talk) 13:53, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

About HMS Little Belt

No worries! :)

I think we could either do a HMS Little Belt (Lake Erie) or we could do HMS Little Belt (Frigate) and HMS Little Belt (Sloop). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trip Johnson (talkcontribs) 17:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Oversight

Ok, I was just worried about the phone number listed at the bottom of the page. I thought I saw somewhere that personal info like that was oversighted, but admins are trustworthy so it shouldn't matter anyways. Thanks! Icestorm815Talk 03:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I've asked for oversight on article revisions where the article is not deleted, and on edit summaries where somebody's put email or phone numbers. Admins can do a delete/restore option and remove specific edits, but that can lead to trouble (see Scientizzle's prostration of the wiki by doing that on the sandbox!) Acroterion (talk) 03:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Ok, that makes sense. I bet the servers had a fun time with the sandbox! Icestorm815Talk 03:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

once more added his nonsense article Muzz-Krax Brothers. --Rocksanddirt (talk) 16:33, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Kids Kampus

Please explain what in the article you consider to be blatant advertising. This is an article about a wonderful, free public park, run by the city government. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mgreason (talkcontribs) 17:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Since it's a public park, I've taken the spam tag off, but it's still written as advertising and needs a substantial re-write to make it an encyclopedia article instead of a newspaper feature. Acroterion (talk) 17:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
If you quote directly from a publication, it should be identified as such, not just noted. I removed the Fodor's quote as a copyvio in its original form. Acroterion (talk) 17:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Milhist coordinators election has started

The February 2008 Military history WikiProject coordinator election has begun. We will be selecting nine coordinators to serve for the next six months from a pool of fifteen candidates. Please vote here by February 28! --Eurocopter tigre (talk) 16:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Joey Cormier

Joey Cormier has reappeared! Paste (talk) 19:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi Acroterion,

I userfied this article, which you deleted, for the author to work on some more: User:Amyyaley/OC Systems. This is a courtesy notice because: a. I'm a courteous person b. I'm new at this, and not sure if notifying the deleting admin upon userfication is common practice or not.

If this is normally done, or normally not done, please let me know, and if it was somehow inappropriate, or done wrong, please let me know that too! --barneca (talk) 23:12, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds fine to me, I'm not of the "I deleted it, so nobody will ever get to see it again if I can help it!" philosophy. I don't really know what the etiquette is either, but I appreciate the note. Cheers, Acroterion (talk) 00:24, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

thank you

sheesh, that one was persistent. Thanks! --MPerel 22:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

And now insists on being unblocked. I'm formulating an appropriate answer. Acroterion (talk) 22:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Blofeld

Or "elimination" rather. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 02:18, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Liquidation is my preferred term. Acroterion (talk) 02:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Just like that !! Plainfaing IN a few days we'll have france nailed and they can begin development. Very few will congratulate us!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 03:22, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

I see ominous signs that you're moving on to China - or Armenia. I'll stick to expanding France - I was thinking of doing all the places I've been/passed through. Acroterion (talk) 03:27, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

You;ll be pleased to know its just about all started apart from the Somme which somebody elese is doing. I;ll aim to develop many of them when I can amongst my other work and at least ensure they all have an infbox and the basics. I remain optimistic that they can all develop fully eventually . 36,000 in total! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 23:00, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

I am pleased, but then I find gazetteers and atlases fascinating. My standard on these matters is that if my ancestral town of Cucumber, West Virginia (in which I've never set foot) rates an article, then we're quite safe in including French communes and villages. Regards (and admiration for your perseverance and stamina), Acroterion (talk) 23:22, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Marne la Vallee architecture school

thanks for the links on my page!!! that's so nice of you to put the links and help me on the setup of the page!! this is my first ever wiki i did. I'm still having trouble with the pictures upload. the french version of the school is fine. thanks so much again.

A sincere question

Why do you say I was vandalizing ClueBot's page? What I really was doing is just only leaving him a serious message which I expected a soon response as I do with this message I am leaving you. As you can see, I'm an unconventional vandal as I will never use profanities in my messages; I will never sink my level to that of a common Wikipedian you know.


201.143.242.228 (talk) 02:08, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Thank you.

Thanks for reverting on my talk. Oh, and that traffic light is terrible... wow. · AndonicO Hail! 02:37, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

I ran across it on a cycling blog, of all things - properly credited to Commons! Acroterion (talk) 03:09, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

Block of 12.26.69.6

On Feb 13, you stated on 12.26.69.6's page that the next time vandalism occurred to Circuit City, you would block the ip. IP vandalised Circuit City again today. Also, other pages have been vandalised. Just thought I would let you know. Also, the IP is owned by Circuit City and appears to be coming from their store in San Bernadino, CA and looking at the history, it appears its the same individual doing the edits the entire time.--Finalnight (talk) 04:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

There's a disturbing fascination for The Golden Girls there too. I believe I'll leave a note on the page to the effect of We Know Where You Are Editing. 04:44, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I was going to file an IP abuse report with Wikipedia since I used to work for CC and know how much they hate store associates screwing around on company intranet. Think that is warranted at this point?--Finalnight (talk) 04:50, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
I was on the point of quitting for the evening there, but I'm back for a little while. I wasn't inclined to block at that time, since there was no current vandalism and the store was closed. I was going to see if we can scare them ourselves - I dislike causing Real Life trouble for people and would rather just modify their behavior, assuming they see the warning. I doubt CC would object to a long block, which would take care of things too, and will be the next option if anything else happens. Acroterion (talk) 12:37, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I will go with whatever you feel is appropriate.--Finalnight (talk) 17:26, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism after the last warning has earned a month off. Acroterion (talk) 18:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Dang

How did you notice my insertion of misinformation so quickly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.0.39.170 (talk) 03:24, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Several bots look for suspect contributions and present them to recent changes patrolers. Besides, school articles are magnets for vandalism. Go and sin no more. Acroterion (talk) 03:32, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

209.23.168.205

This is a dynamic IP used by many dial-up users, it is not a static IP address. I did not make said edits but rather, somebody who had used the IP address before me did. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.23.168.205 (talk) 22:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

You're right - that's what happens with dynamic IP's, you will see warnings for other people who abused that address. That's why it says at the bottom " If this is a shared IP address, and you didn't make any unconstructive edits, consider creating an account for yourself so you can avoid further irrelevant warnings." The warning wasn't aimed at you, just at the person who was using the IP at the time. Acroterion (talk) 23:21, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

12.26.69.6

A whois search reveals this IP to be circuit city. It looks like it may be wise to block the entire range to make sure that this person doesn't vandalize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.23.168.205 (talk) 22:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Rangeblocks are reserved for intractable IP-hopping vandals when all else has failed. Blocking that particular IP should be enough. Acroterion (talk) 02:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 23:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome. It was clear that it was a sock: others figured out who it was. Acroterion (talk) 00:07, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
I recognize the sockpuppet. I've been dealing with him for months now. It is only recently that he has moved to creating accounts. It's getting rather old. Oh well. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:24, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for dealing with the insult on my talk page. =) It wasn't a very good one. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:01, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

The standard of originality among(st) vandals is in a sad state of decline. Acroterion (talk) 21:39, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Follow up on IP vandal

I discovered an block you had done a month ago.[5] It was for only 24 hours, but appears to have stopped the damage. Bearian (talk) 21:19, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Good to know the block worked, although the cynical answer would be that he found another IP and article set to abuse. I usually keep blocked IP's on a watchlist for a while just in case and purge it when it becomes too unwieldy. Acroterion (talk) 21:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Huge Image

Why is the image inappropriate? Surely it is my talk page, and I can do what I want with it (within reason of course) Asian Parents, Western Upbringing (talk) 01:24, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Righto. Asian Parents, Western Upbringing (talk) 01:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Since a couple of "prod" tags were placed on this article that I wrote, I've replaced them with an afd template so this can go to a vote. Out of courtesy I would like to inform the users who placed the prod tags on the article initially. Is there a set piece of writing I should use to do this? Asian Parents, Western Upbringing (talk) 01:37, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

A note to those who appear to be interested would be fine. I think there are only a couple of editors involved. Acroterion (talk) 01:39, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Victor64

I just left a message on his talk page that I would be pleased to unblock him and offered to find him a mentor, should he choose to come back. I do require that he apologize and pledge not to misbehave again. My sincere hope is that he'll take me up on both parts (unblock and mentorship). On a separate matter, please accept my thanks for your very kind words on my behalf. I'm honored to have your respect and hope to continue to live up to it. - Philippe | Talk 04:45, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm glad we are of the same opinion on the proper action. I decided to step in when the talk became a bit too strident for my taste. You're certainly not BITEy, in my experience. Acroterion (talk) 04:52, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
I certainly try not to be. Frankly, I respect the interceding user; they did a fantastic job of presenting their case, if a little more strident that I would have preferred. I honestly hope that there's a chance to turn this one into win/win. If that's the case, a good deal of the credit for that should go to you for stepping in to de-escalate the situation. Truly, and honestly, well done. - Philippe | Talk 04:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

SORRY!

I'm sorry! I won't do it again! An older boy told me to do it!

... and that older boy was Ernest Borgnine!

Since you're apparently in college, that might be right. Stop anyway. Acroterion (talk) 18:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting my user page. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:06, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Atrocity

That is most unfair! You have articles on Wookieepedia and other wikis so why not the Oompa Loompa wiki!? I know the page was not stupendous but I was going to work on it for a few days. Please please please please undelete that is really really unfair I spent ages extracting that logo and writing the text properly. I'm not a native speaker of English and that took me ages to get right. I will assume good faith but I think this is a blatant misuse of power. Please undelete kind sir! Johnboy7767 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Wookieepedia is notable and yours is not: indeed, it would be astounding if it was, since it's less than 24 hours old. And, I would submit, there is little potential wiki-interest concerning Oompa-Loompas. By the way, the image is a probable copyright violation, apart from its questionable level of taste. Good luck with Paramount. Acroterion (talk) 00:06, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
It is not "mine," I was simply fulfilling a promise to a friend who is somewhat...let's say wiki-handicapped. I am no affiliation to the Oompa Loompa wiki and am entirely unbiased. However, in the fruitfulness of your comments, I respond. There is much to say about Oompa Loompas (without the dash, jeez) as they are an integral part of modern culture. My friend says they think they have will over one hundred users by Monday and lots of cash. About the image, I only fulfil request so please wish my friend luck with Paramount. Anyway, the image is not copy written as my friend made it himself; that is his brother bending over. I assume it is okay for me to recreate article? Johnboy7767 (talk) 00:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
No. The issue is WP:NOTABILITY. If in time your friend's site is notable, I am sure he'll be able to produce newspaper and Web journalism articles to prove it. Until then, it does not meet our requirements for inclusion. Acroterion (talk) 00:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
I still think that that is reasoning unfair and unjust towards I hard work. You have abusen thy power without first consulting the Wikipedia community. What if I reacreate the page and the community vote on deleteion? After say...three months if more delete than keep (HA! unlikely) then article can be redeleted. I will do that with your fruitful go ahead. Johnboy7767 (talk)
Also, I searched in Google and found nobility: http://oompaloompasrus.weebly.com/news.html. Thank you very much for understanding. Now I recreate page with nobility. Johnboy7767 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 00:29, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
HELLO IS ANYONE THERE? Johnboy7767 (talk) 00:48, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
No. Again. We already have an article on Oompa-Loomas, and I removed your picture as a copyright violation and vandalism. Please acquaint yourself with Wikipedia requirements for inclusion, and our policies on deletion. Acroterion (talk) 00:57, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

"Yucatan Cuisine" deletion

Hi, we wrote an article about "Yucatan Cuisine" and got deleted supposedly because of copyright violation, but this is untrue, the article was entirely written by Chef David Sterling, you got confused by the "Yucatan today" article because they used chef Sterling text, under his permission of course. What else is needed so the article is posted again ? chef Sterling email is chefsterling@los-dos.com in case you need to consult anything from him, he is fully aware of this issue.

Thanks in advance

Gbuenfil (talk) 18:10, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

It's still a copyright problem if it's a direct cut-and-paste from any other website, as the copyvio notice on your talk page mentions. Although that can be addressed by various permissions (as the notice states), the copied text is promotional in nature and unsuitable for use as is, bordering on advertising for Chef Sterling - indeed, I almost deleted it as advertising rather than copyvio. You will need to provide multiple, neutral, third-party references that show that the cuisine is not simply a creation of a single chef, and that it is notable and not confined to Los Dos. The article will have to be written in a neutral, encyclopedic tone. Referencing Los Dos as a source is not acceptable, as it is not an independent source. Please see WP:NOTABILITY for general guidelines and reference requirements. Acroterion (talk) 18:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For blocking Afearofnight, he vandalised my page five times. THE KC (talk) 21:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! You must have run into him in another incarnation, as he was focused solely on you. Any idea whose sock it is? Acroterion (talk) 21:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually, he's not anybody's. He's an IRL acquaintnce of mine, good friends with Thecaseymac. THE KC (talk) 15:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC).

Manzoor's Paradox

You deleted my article:

Manzoor's Paradox

You said it was nonsense when it was entirely not. It was a completely straightforward paradox I invented that had yet to be included. Take every paradox from wikipedia if you take mine.

If you can document your theorem with two or three examples of coverage in independent media, preferably of national standing, we'll be happy to include. Otherwise, Wikipedia isn't for things you made up one day. Acroterion (talk) 21:51, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

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Ernesto Sunshine

Noticed you deleted Ernesto sunshine. He now has his own userpage: User:Ernesto Sunshine. -WarthogDemon 02:38, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't necessarily have a problem with that, unless it's abuse or a seed to continually recreate deleted material: db-band doesn't really apply to user pages. Acroterion (talk) 02:47, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

my page

please don't delete my page.

I understand the personal attack, my bad, but I list those people on there because they played an important role in my life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bumbabuddy (talkcontribs) 04:12, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

my page

ok i understand but can i still mention there names but not give a full article on them, like mention them for something i do with them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bumbabuddy (talkcontribs) 04:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

my page

what i mean is,

if im on the debate team, is it ok to name my team mates, same for other orginizations or clubs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bumbabuddy (talkcontribs) 04:34, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

my page

well i mean, i didnt make the page, someone else made it about me so what do u want me to do? can i just write facts and stuff, not actual thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bumbabuddy (talkcontribs) 04:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Block of user TjIsHomo

Thanks for doing my dirty work. Bearian'sBooties (talk) 01:56, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

No problem, just part of our daily ration of homophobia, racism and misogyny! Acroterion (talk) 01:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

deleted

please can you re add my page which you have deleted... You have no right to delete my personal user page. Please restore I will be filing a RfA for your spurious actions --KINGTUTER (talk) 22:14, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

You mistakenly created a personal userpage in article space - "User KINGTUTER/vereor" was an inappropriate article and was deleted. You then created the content on a subpage of your userpage, which is acceptable, sort of. I merely cleaned up the inappropriate placement of the article (although I will point out it was an unsourced protologism with no assertion of notability). Please provide multiple independent sources for content, and please create them appropriately. Acroterion (talk) 22:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

THanks for the block

This was getting a little insane TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 02:29, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm generally tolerant of nonsense article creation up to a point: three or four repeats or outright attacks will send it over, but the issue in this case was the blanking of CSD. Acroterion (talk) 02:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I'm spending my first evening really tackling new page creation and I swear CSD has been my favorite button. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 03:10, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
It's been an unusually bad evening for nonsense, non-notability and defamation. There is good work being done, and some well-intentioned, but misguided work. Nonetheless, see the kind words in the thread above from one of my previous customers. Acroterion (talk) 03:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I don't know why I hit up new pages tonight. I usually work through the backlog on the grounds that they're the 'issues' that are forgotten and can be cleaned up or PROD/AFD/CSDed etc to have it be less than a 15K backlog but I think I wanted a change of scenery. Is it a full moon? That could explain the nonsense -- there's been a fair bit of that at AfD tonight. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 03:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
There was a small sliver of new moon when I took the recycling out. I think everybody who's snowed in in Ohio is taking it out on us. Acroterion (talk) 03:37, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

you cant censor me!

Go ahead and try it! Ill just go from lab to lab and ill keep coming back making life hell for you and your dork job —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.217.51.113 (talk) 15:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

A very mild form of hell: blocking is quite easy and fun, where racist vandals are concerned. Acroterion (talk) 15:08, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
Also, the IT department at Dakota State University may be interested in your activities. We've had excellent cooperation with university It departments in the past. Acroterion (talk) 15:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Attack page at Sydney Juel

Just letting you know, though it may be deleted before you realize it: Sadukarwarrior began the page (Sydney Juel) with a {{hangon}} tag, then added an attack against you, probably because you tagged it for deletion last time. I wonder if I'm next. --Evan ¤ Seeds 22:12, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

He's not very good at it, in any case: it is well known on the 'Pedia that I'm a 78 year old Tahitian sponge diver, presently living on an alligator farm in Minnesota with my 18 great-grandchildren. Acroterion (talk) 13:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Dr Manhattan (band)

Why did people delete this article? It met the standards. And from what I know, those standards include having an album in stores. That is all. Can you please elaborate for me?--Alkalinetrio78 (talk) 01:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

In December, it was the subject of an Afd: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dr Manhattan (band). No album existed, but one was anticipated in March. It was therefore deleted by consensus, as the link shows. I assume the album now exists. The mere existence of an album in stores does not qualify the band for inclusion, per WP:BAND, particularly #5, but it's progress. If the band now meets WP:BAND criteria, then great, but the article will need to document that. Acroterion (talk) 02:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

?

Why does this page im creating keep getting deleted , it it all true information its not like its random babble its lyrics from a band which i have the rights to, even though the lyrics are random and idiotic does not mean that it cannot be a page. Is there just not enough information on the subject? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachhunter (talkcontribs) 03:30, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Random and idiotic are ample grounds for immediate deletion. If you wish to write an article about the band, please ensure that, first, the band qualifies for inclusion (per WP:BAND), and that the article is written as one would expect an article in an encyclopedia to be written. Nothing less: otherwise, it's vandalism. Acroterion (talk) 03:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Marne-la-vallee

thanks for the links on my page, that's so nice of you to put the links... this is my first ever wiki i did. I'm still having trouble with the pictures upload. the french version of the school is fine.

thanks so much again.

I happened to see it and thought I'd help - that's how a wiki works. You will need to add some, I was just formatting it a little. Acroterion (talk) 03:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

my recent entry

I think you were the one that blocked/deleted my recent entry "Martin Williams Advertising". I am trying to edit the page so it is more encylopedic, but I can't get to the page to edit it. I commented last night on the response but have not heard anything. I am new to this, so I appologize if I am not going about his the right way.Menerso (talk) 19:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it was deleted as ... erm ... advertising. Please check WP:CORP for notability standards and WP:SPAM for matters concerning advertising. I am willing, however, to drop the deleted content into a subpage of your user page for your to edit. You will want to make it far less promotional, and way more encyclopedic, with links to significant third-party sources and references. You will find it here: [6], as a subpage of your userpage . Acroterion (talk) 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi hey hello

Hey Acroterion could you please unprotect my userpage? I appreciate it in advance, KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 20:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Done. Good to see you back. Acroterion (talk) 20:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Thanks mate. KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 20:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
It's entirely unprotected: do you desire semi-protection, by any chance? Acroterion (talk) 20:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Oh no thank you. It was already semi-protected. I only semi protected to prevent trolling and vandalism to it during my absence. Thanks for the offer though. :) KnowledgeOfSelf | talk 20:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
So it was: otherwise, you wouldn't have been able to edit it. I should go home and take a nap. Acroterion (talk) 20:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The 'NOEJMFG' Group

Hello, This evening i was searching for information on an important cultural phenonmenon which is affecting a lot of the youths in Manchester at the moment and unfortunately have found that you have deleted the appropriate Wikipedia page on the basis that it is 'nonsense'. I think you will find that to a lot of people the 'NOEJMFG' Group is a last bastion of sense in the world and support it. Indeed the group is a profiler of current affairs, a forum for debate, and most importantly a platform with which to share ideas for many of the young people of Manchester. I would appreciate it very much if you could revoke your decision to delete the page, or at least take time to research and investigate what for many people is a highly important and relevant social movement. I feel it is slightly unfair for you to 'play God' over an issue that you cannot have taken proper grasp of. I mean, i know a lot of people who are more interested in the group than say, the Maginot Line. Thanks for reading, hopefully i will have you as a friend on facebook soon enough?

Lots of love, hugs and kisses

DJFC. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.156.79 (talk) 23:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I am certain your group is fascinating: it, alas, is not suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia, as it appears to lack WP:NOTABILITY and the article does not reach the degree of coherence we require of contributions. Should you feel tempted to re-create the articles, we will not look kindly on spamming variations on the title as you did before: you may even find yourself blocked. As you say: Facebook is the right place, not Wikipedia. Acroterion (talk) 00:48, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

RfA - Discospinster

Thank you so much for your support in my RfA, which was successful with a final count of 70/1/1! ... discospinster talk 23:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Someone really doesn't like me!

Thank you for catching the anonymous IP's edit to my user talk page! Bobo. 01:41, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. From the diffs after my comment, clearly a vandalism-only one-purpose account, and I'm especially angry to have had my userpage vandalized. Way to go. SBHarris 07:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

He chose the wrong time to vandalize Nuclear technology: I was dealing with a long-time serial abuser there, so I blocked him as a sockpuppet. On further consideration, that's probably wrong (at least where any relationship to the main offender was concerned), but Lewashington certainly deserved the block for harassment and disruption. Acroterion (talk) 11:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

nerdfin

I'm trying to add a page called nerdfin. It's like a new term sort of like Newbie, but you are not allowing it. Please respond and give me a notification of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thechengster (talkcontribs) 01:35, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

If you can provide three references in independent media substantiating the term's currency and popularity, add away. Otherwise, it's a non-notable protologism, and will be deleted. Please see WP:MADEUP. Acroterion (talk) 01:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Hattie Spetla Deletion

Hi I came across a page that was being worked on, and decided to contribute. As I was contributing, the page was deleted. Please do not delete this page as I feel it is a valid topic for wikipedia, and support the original author, though this page needs editing to adhere to wiki policy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Admiralpantsgoblin (talkcontribs) 03:02, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

You mean the attack page you created? Understand that trolling and creating attack pages will result in a permanent block. Acroterion (talk) 11:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

I really did not create it, but I apologize for any trouble I have caused. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Admiralpantsgoblin (talkcontribs) 16:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

You're correct: I see that now. Nevertheless, anything to do with attack pages and defamation is to be avoided: expanding upon it is just as bad. Acroterion (talk) 17:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


British Cars

Why did you delete my Article on British Cars, I am currently working on it, please don't delete. Thank you. Dwilso (talk) 19:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

I took it for a test page, as it stated the obvious and contained Japanese car marque images: I'll restore with apologies. You don't really need to state where Britain is, and Germany is most definitely not in southern Europe, as the German cars article states. Acroterion (talk) 19:54, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

help please

how do i put the history of my business on here, i am not advertising here. the only reason i have a website is because it is my reference. how do i properly do it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaaa4444 (talkcontribs) 17:08, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Your article appears to be promotional in nature, and there is no indication that your company meets Wikipedia's notability requirements. Please read WP:CORP. You would need to provide multiple references in third-party publications of national standing to establish notability for most companies. Wikipedia is not a directory or a free webhost - it is an encyclopedia, and not all submissions meet the standard for inclusion. Acroterion (talk) 17:17, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

ok thank you i will work on it. sorry i am new to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aaaa4444 (talkcontribs) 17:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm happy to help where I can, but you will have to establish notability before your business can be included. Acroterion (talk) 17:52, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Joel Eisenberg Here. Re: Deletion - I Posted Material From My Own Website, That I Wrote For My Website, And You Deleted It ...

Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joel644 (talkcontribs) 01:48, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page - we crossed in transit. Acroterion (talk) 01:50, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Joel644

Thanks for the response. I'll take care of it ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joel644 (talkcontribs) 01:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Ogilvy Public Relations

You are correct in that Ogilvy Public Relations and Ogilvy & Mather are sister companies. Ogilvy Public Relations was created from Ogilvy & Mather but as a separate entity. Ogilvy & Mather references/links to Ogilvy Public Relations in its article and we do the same iin the Ogilvy Public Relations article. Can we keep these two articles separate? Currently, the Ogilvy Public Relations article has been removed from Wikipedia for the second time. The initial article was removed within 24 hours and was tagged blatant advertising. The article was revised, using tips from Wikipedia, (Blatant Advertising Restrictions and Corporation Guidelines) with a list of external links added at the bottom of the article and all "promotional" references removed. The article was posted again on Tuesday, March 18th and removed within 24 hours again. Please advise as to how the Ogilvy Public Relations article can be posted and remain on Wikipedia.

I went back and reviewed it: the deleted article reads as, well, a public relations piece instead of an encyclopedia article. Encyclopedia articles place the subject in a frame of reference that provides evidence of the subject's notability and relevance in the world, not just a statement of the history and accomplishments. They are also derived from third-party, objective sources, which is the problem at the heart of this article. It reads like it was written by OPR, and it was. The article should derive from other sources than OPR's own PR department, using multiple, documented sources in independent media. Acroterion (talk) 00:51, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

here. Wonder how I pissed off that user. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 03:21, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

They appear to have been operating with a hit list. The fun was brief, in any case. Acroterion (talk) 03:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Timing amused me... I've been so busy with the Museums WikiProject that I haven't spent much/any time at AfD, in the backlog or tagging for speedy deletion which is where I usually find my trolls who love me so much. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 04:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I removed the copy warning of deletion of Play Pirate

Hi,

I didn't read until I had removed the copy that I wasn't to do that. I'm still learning about Wikipedia.

I do hope you'll reconsider leaving on wiki, since it's a term that has legs.

Thanks,

Leif —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leifthor (talkcontribs) 20:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Understood, no problem. However, the article fails our inclusion criteria on a number of fronts, and is likely to be deleted in the near future. Please read our policies on verifiablilty, original research, things made up, among others. Acroterion (talk) 20:44, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the reverts on my talk page... it was taking forever for it to load seeing as how i share a connection with many other students so it kind of degrades the speed at which i can revert and such, thanks again mate.

AnnaJGrant (talk) 12:20, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

You're welcome: I'm having problems with javascripts on my end for some reason, and it's been a struggle. Admin rollback is server-based, so it doesn't clog the internets so much. By the way, the official name of the Genesis vandal is Tile join (talk · contribs). Acroterion (talk) 12:23, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Cool, thanks for the info. Do you think that i will have to worry about him in the future? Or just when i rollback his edits? Does he just vandalize the evolution article? or does he vandalize most articles that refer to evolution, such as Darwinism or something like that?
Again, thanks for the help and i am happy to lend my services toward fighting vandals.. GO VANDALS!!!

Cheers, Anna AnnaJGrant (talk) 12:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't "worry" about Tile join: he'll show up until he gets bored, and there are plenty of people watching his usual haunts. TimVickers (talk · contribs) has been keeping a close eye on him and sending new socks for checkuser/ip when needed. If you revert him, you have to assume his next sock will tag your page, but that's easily dealt with. He pretty much sticks to evolution-related articles. Acroterion (talk) 16:48, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Evil lairs

Good Evening Mr. Acterion! Been making mud pies have we? Funny you mentioned Jested I stubbed the Ještěd cable car yonks ago and still nobody has expanded it!!! I take it cold swiss mountain tops from 1969 aren't to your taste? Personally I prefer the volcano. Something to do with the "magma" ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 19:51, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see. Perhaps he was chased away down the slope on skis or something and told never to return by my masculine German henchwoman which could have put him off. Perhaps I should move to a desolate French Polynesian island . I;v ejust been uploading possible placeshere. Nice! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Natually lol. Yes I find the South Pacific so fascinating as it is about as far away as you can get. Comes from reading books like Coral Island as a kid. My dad is still the same and he is 59 and still obsessed with the south pacific and sailing. Incidentally he is painting me a giant landscape of a polynesian harbor as we speak for my room -its looking amazing -azure blue water with palm trees ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Right I'm about to upload some images for Taravai and Aukena to the commons from french wikipedia -how inconsiderate of the french not to!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 20:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Architects

HI don't know if you are interested but I have created a Template:European architects. This is a good first step I think to get some of the biographies stubbed on wikipedia. Hopefully the native speakers on here can translate. It would be so much easier if we had a Wiki Translation to translate now wouldn't it!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 12:57, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Yep there are thousands of missing biographies (and notable buildings) and unfortunately many even that have been started are poorly developed because of the language barriers. I have a huge interest in architecture, and the arts, painting and sculpture , literature, film, theatre and music (along with geography of course). Everyone of my father six brothers and sisters is either a painter, or a writer, one of them is a retired architect and civil engineer. Being born too left handed I 'm pretty much programmed in to be interested in these areas!!! At least if they are stubbed it gives the opportunity for somebody who has a ocmmand of the language to expand it. I remain optimistic ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:Bridges in Europe may also interest you I created the other day. Check out the Portuguese one yikes!! So much missing!!! ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦ $1,000,000? 13:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

NHRHS2010 |  Talk to me  22:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar, and you're welcome for the revert/block. It was reasonably apparent that someone named Ihatenhrhs2010 might be up to no good. Acroterion (talk) 23:19, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Yes, User:Ihatenhrhs2010 have been created probably either by the user who have vandalized with an IP where I have posted warning messages, or that he was originally making fun of me on YouTube (I have the same username on YouTube as on Wikipedia). Again, thanks for the revert/block. NHRHS2010 |  Talk to me  00:35, 30 March 2008 (UTC)