User talk:Paul gene

Please do follow my requests

Hello!

I asked of you:

"If you just stick to those questions, and don't respond to others quite yet, there's little that can go wrong, I think.".

However, after that point in time, you did respond to people outside the questions I asked you at WT:MEDRS. In the immediate future, could you please refrain from doing so? Thanks!

--Kim Bruning (talk) 20:34, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Am I to take it that you will continue to respond to people outside the questions I'm asking? --Kim Bruning (talk) 16:06, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, do you intend to answer the question I asked you please? (see below) --Kim Bruning (talk) 16:14, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answers to your questions:

Would you please go ahead and educate me on what you are trying to do?
I'm acting to un-knot the situation in a systematic manner.
Please provide the links to the ground rules.
Ground rules are what I agree with you, and of course the body of wikipedia policy
Will the unproductive accusations in "wikilawering" and "forum shopping" be dealt with swiftly and fairly?
I'm asking you to not respond outside your section, so that such accusations can have no (further) ground. This is a temporary measure for your protection, and is used quite commonly for that purpose. If people continue to accuse you unjustly, it becomes easy to prove and easy to deal with.
What about references to irrelevant essays with inflammatory names like WP:Fanatic or WP:Idiot?
See above.
If I am supposed to keep mum except for answering your questions, how fast my response is expected?
Take your time.
Why other people are commenting on the page on related and unrelated issues?
Because it's a wiki. I do not control other people's actions, nor do I wish to.
Why Sandy and Colin can respond to others' comments and I cannot?
With due respect to yourself (but frankly), it's because they're (mostly) not shooting themselves in the foot.
How quickly will you respond with your following questions?
Probably within 24 hours, for the coming couple of days.
You nudge me repeatedly and then disappear for several days.
I'm not on any particular schedule. I'm a volunteer not an employee. As a general rule, if you answer quickly, I tend to respond quickly. If you don't respond and I happen to be away, there's not much I can do.
How about contacting UnaSMith and NBauman who presented reasonable arguments against the "guideline"?
Feel free to introduce me to them! :-)
Are you sure you are impartial?
So far this is pretty much routine mediation for me.

Here's some action points I need to have your word on. When editing in a consensus environment I need to be able to trust on people's word :-) :

On WT:MEDRS, for now, please only answer questions I ask you (and only make edits I ask of you too). Directly answering others has clearly been unproductive at the moment, so it can wait a little while. This prevents people from accusing you unjustly, among other things. So far you have not followed this recommendation. May I have your word that you will do so in future please?
I'm going to unprotect the page soon, and ask you to make some edits. Please only edit when I ask you to for now. Can I entrust this to you?
Please contact UnaSMith and NBauman and cordially invite them to answer the 4 questions as well. Can I entrust this to you?

--Kim Bruning (talk) 17:19, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes to all three questions. For this arbitration to succeed no incivility must be allowed. So, I hope the ground rules will be same for Sandy and Colin as for me. So far you admit to favoring them - you insist that they have the right to answer others, while I do not. This post [1] also worries me a bit. But I will humor you for now. Paul Gene (talk) 21:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the mean time, Eublides made a proposal I'd like to check with you. Can you answer my question here please? --Kim Bruning (talk) 20:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

update The page has been archived, but I've maintained the existing thread. Can you answer in your section please? Thank you. --Kim Bruning (talk)