Talk:The China Probrem

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Mystic River

Did this episode not seem to be related to the film,Mystic River? I didn't see it mentioned in the cultural references. I'm talking about how the two boys saw their friend kidnapped, who was later raped and they had problems dealing with it. Just a thought. Mark —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.195.236 (talk) 13:11, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Canada

It doesn't seem like The China Probrem will show today or Friday when new episodes usually show. Are we sure it's airing today? 76.68.110.172 (talk) 01:45, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it airing right now? Anyone? --Anthony Ivanoff (talk) 02:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's showing right now —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.18.15.175 (talk) 02:08, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

When will it appear on southparkstudios.com? Right after it's aired or I'd better download the pirated version? --Anthony Ivanoff (talk)

The China Probrem may be a pun on The China Syndrome. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.202.79.9 (talk) 02:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It has apeared on southparkstudios.com - Redmess (talk) 14:35, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And then it was taken down again. Currently it says it will be available Nov 08. When I watched it yesterday the s-words and f-words were not bleeped out, so maybe that has something to do with it? 213.199.128.147 (talk) 12:01, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Evil Never Dies

I guess they made a deal with the devil to return to life after being melted in the Free Hat episode.

Well, at least justice was done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.228.114 (talk) 02:33, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Clone Wars

Does anyone else think that Lucas and Spielberg rapeing a stormtropper may have been a rference to the latest Star Wars movie, The Clone Wars, which was almost universally panned? Just a thought... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.88.65.18 (talk) 16:06, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might be right, but I think it was more of a swipe at how the franchise was raped by everything that came out since 1999. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.97.69.26 (talk) 18:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was probably a swipe at both, at Star Wars in general, but the Stormtrooper chosen specifically for the Clone Wars, as the symbol for CW was a Clonetrooper, which would be a "rape" of a Stormtrooper. --JohnVMaster (talk) 20:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good reference

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/showtracker/2008/10/south-park-vs-l.html - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 21:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question: Rape scenes film references

The rape scene references to "The Accused" and "Deliverance" are obvious, but it is not clear to me that the first rape scene is in fact a reference to "Boys Don't Cry" as stated in the main article.

And I am not the only one--at least one article I've read ties it to "A Clockwork Orange" instead: "South Park rape episode draws record viewers"

Can someone point out the details that link the scene to one film or the other? (Or some third film?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellingman (talk • contribs) 21:41, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Upon further review, the consensus seems to be that it was in fact a third movie: The Kite Runner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bellingman (talk • contribs) 17:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New image

Am I the only one thinking the image is not very suitable? I mean, there's nothing in it which distinguishes any elements found in this particular episode. As a matter of fact, it could represent any episode! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Klingspor (talk • contribs) 22:54, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It was put up before the episode aired when only the preview clip was available. I'll put up a new one. --JohnVMaster (talk) 00:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think the image currently there needs to be changed to Cartman and Butters at P.F. Changs or something like that...not wat is going on in this picture now. The title of the article is "The China Probrem" and this current picture does not relate to it as much for somebody who is looking at this for the first time and never saw this episode. --J miester25 (talk) 14:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

On the other hand, the whole Indiana Jones-thingy was undoubtedly the more prominent element of this episode. Therefore, I think the current image suits this article and episode perfectly. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Klingspor (talk • contribs) 23:30, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AFL

Why is there no mention of the AFL? Cartman created the American Liberation Front, which is obviously a satire of the Animal Liberation Front. I think Cartman's message at the end is also a satire. While they might be fighting for a cause they believe in, it's not worth it if they do it via unethical means (shooting people in the dick/sabotage and violence). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.200.128.97 (talk) 14:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is more likely a coincidence than anything else and is a stretch. There are many, many, many organizations out there- almost no matter what initials you select with the letter A being in the front, you're bound to double up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.161.196 (talk) 06:45, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But Matt and Trey have parodyed PETA and other organizations many times before, it seems unlikely to be a coincidence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kobb (talk • contribs) 21:43, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They did an ALF parody in the space whale episode too... Free Wyzlyxz or whatever it was. --172.163.56.34 (talk) 04:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But then why the ALF? Why them in this episode? As an obtuse jab for no real reason? South Park pretty much says what it means up front. If the Animal Liberation Front was a target, then chances are it would have more bone to it besides the initials.

Trivia is incorrect!!

This is not the first time Cartman said "I've learned something today." The first time was at the end of the 7th season premiere "I'm A Little Bit Country". What is said in this article is incorrect and needs to be changed. It is misleading and does not follow I'm A Little Bit Country's article. --J miester25 (talk) 14:16, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have made the neccesary corrections to this section --J miester25 (talk) 14:43, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HEYYY WHAT HAPPENED TO MY SECTION???? --J miester25 (talk) 11:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Trivia sections are discouraged on Wikipeda. Cultural References sections are, too, for the most part, but at least those can generally be sourced. Trivia by it's very nature is trivial, and therefore not suitable for an encyclopedia, per Wikipedia rules. --Mike | Contrib 15:38, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Your" section? Wikipedia is editable by all, nobody owns an article. Alastairward (talk) 16:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is stupid. I like the cultural references! You can't find anything like it on Google, as you've previously stated. If as you say nobody owns an article, why do you take matters into you're own hands? Dorkules (talk) 08:55, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yawn, do I really have to go through the motions again? Very well, if you add something to wikipedia that is challenged and you haven't cited it, don't expect it to stay there forever. See the no original research rule if you want clarification. And if you can't use Google, that's not my problem. Alastairward (talk) 16:52, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I find your attitude absolutely turd, especially since the cultural references are a critical part of any south park article. I will dig up citations for it, if I have to write them myself since users such as yourself are the scour of Wikipedia. Anthony cargile (talk) 20:57, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Season 13?

On a commerical for this episode on Comedy Central, it was advertised as the season premiere. So wouldn't this be the Season 13 premiere? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.233.117.242 (talk) 10:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

no --J miester25 (talk) 11:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deliverance

Why does the episode summary refer to the Storm Trooper raping scene as influenced by Deliverance? It is clear that the third rape scene is a reference to this movie...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.61.30 (talk) 01:01, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]